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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Eli has 7 black pens and 5 blue pens in his desk drawer. He also has 3 yellow highlighters, 2 green highlighters, and 5 pink highlighters in his pencil case. If he chooses one pen and one highlighter without looking, what is the probability that he will get a black pen and he will not get a green highlighter?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@terenzreignz

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

What's the probability that he gets a black pen?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/22

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

How do you get 22? There are only 7 black pens and 5 blue ones...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh sorry i added all the numbers. if theres 11 total pens

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Nope, still not 11 :D

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

7+5, Kayy... Wake up :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

12

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Haha i am half sleep to be honest

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Why, where are you from? And LOL So, 12 pens in total, how many black pens?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Theres 7 black pens total

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

So, what are the odds that he picks a black pen, without looking?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

7/12 or 1/12

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Only one of those... so which is it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

7/12

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's right :) Now, how many highlighters total?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

10

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

And how many are NOT green?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

8 because theres only 2 green highlighters

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's correct. Now, what are the odds that he selects a non-green highlighter, then?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

including the whole total of highlighters

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Of course.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2/10

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@terenzreignz

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Nope. That's the odds of picking a green highlighter... what are the odds then of NOT picking a green highlighter?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ummm ??

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Earlier, since there were 7 black pens and 12 pens total, the odds of getting a black pen was 7/12, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah but theres only 2 green highlighters

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yeah, but we're not shooting for a green highlighter, in fact the opposite... we DON'T want to pick a green highlighter, that's why I asked you how many highlighters were NOT green... get it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ohh okay so in that case if we take out the 2 greens ita 8 total

OpenStudy (anonymous):

8.3% is my answer ?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

8.3? Slow down... what are the odds that he gets a non-green highlighter?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was looking at my answer choices.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2/8 idk lol

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

No. How did you get 7/12? You divide the number of favourable outcomes (in this case, a black pen) by the TOTAL NUMBER of outocmes... There are 7 black pens (favourable) and there are 12 pens total Hence, 7/12 odds of getting a black pen. Do the same for the highlighters... Favourable outocme is NOT a green highlighter, so how many is that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got 7/12 because there 7 black pens and 12 total pens .

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes. So do the same with the number of non-green highlighters and the total number of highlighters.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

theres 10 total highlighters right ?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if theres 2 green how comes its not 2/10

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Reread your question.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Come on, just read it again, the answer to "why is it not 2/10" is there.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because it says black pens and green pens is it 7/12 again or 7/10

OpenStudy (anonymous):

46.7% 11.7% 33.3.% 8.3%

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Are we looking for the probability that he picks a green highlighter?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Then, what were we looking for if not the odds that he picks a green highlighter?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/10

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0/10

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Not proceeding until you answer that question ^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omg i give up

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Well, you simply can't do that when faced with an actual exam, now can you? :) Come on, I'm simply making the utmost sure that you understand how to do this.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know but i cant get the freakin odds or whatever you talking about.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

odds are the same as probability.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I'm going to ask you one more time... what is the probability that he picks a NON-GREEN highlighter?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

idk i already told you almost every answer and you still said no so idk what else could it be

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay... so tell me, how did you get 7/12 for the probability that he picks a black pen?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because theres 7 black pens and 12 total pens. theres 10 total highlighter but 2 green ones , but your saying non green which takes out the 2

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Because there are 7 black pens and 12 total pens, that's good. You counted how many black pens there are, and divided it by the total number of pens. Now, I asked you the odds of getting a non-green highlighter... I don't see what's drastically different about this, you do something exactly the same... count the number of non-green highlighters, and divide it by the total number of highlighters.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there are no non green there 2 green it says. so am i suposed to divde 7/12*2/10 or what because idk and im about to just skip this question iv been on it for 43 minutes

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

There are no non-green highlighters?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

So the pink and the yellow highlighters are also green? -.-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in that case its 0/10 because theres still 10 total inless its 0/8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if theres NO NON GREEN , but in the passage its 2 GREEN HIGHLIGHTERS

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes, there are two green highlighters, but they're not the ones Eli wants to pick, the questions wants the odds that he picks a non-green highlighter IN OTHER WORDS a PINK or a YELLOW highlighter. Now, HOW MANY PINK AND YELLOW HIGHLIGHTERS ARE THERE? What are the odds that he picks a PINK or a YELLOW highlighter?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

8 total because theres 5 pink and 3 yellow

OpenStudy (anonymous):

46.7% 11.7% 33.3.% 8.3%

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have work at 12;30 i need to hurry and finish i have 10 more questions to go.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yes. So NOW do you know the odds of getting a non-green highlighter? It's the same as the odds of getting a pink or yellow highlighter....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so its just 8

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

NO... that's the number of pink or yellow highlighters.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

idk then ?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

The number of black pens is 7 the odds of getting a black pen is 7/12 The number of non-green highlighters is 8 the odds of getting a non-green highlighter is...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

10 or 0

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Nope. Try again.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wht is it ?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, here's a hint ... odds are never greater than 1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it 1

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

No. An odds of 1 means it will definitely happen, and that's not the case... You're not sure that he'll pick a non-green highlighter, because there are still two green ones...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have to be at work soon so im just gnnah skip this one iv been on this problem for an hour and i still have a lot more to go and im very frustrated .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@terenzreignz

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