Is anyone good with square roots? I need a lot of help
Yes.
I know a bit.
What kinda help do you need with square roots so we can quickly help you out !
oh great. ok so my first one is sqrt x = x - 20
where did everyone go? \[\sqrt{x}=x-20\]square both sides to get \[x=(x-20)^2=x^2-40x+400\]
Can you proceed from there kika?
How does the 40x get there?
FOIL of (x-20)(x-20)
then solve \[x^2-41x+400=0\] which is sort of annoying but you can factor it
ok i think i understand so far.
\((x-20)^2=(x-20)(x-20)=x^2-40x+400\)
aka multiply
I hear you satellite. I'm just talking the familiar lingo. (At least at my schools)
You are very helpful satelite
Yeah, So i have some more complicated ones i need help with too so dont leave lol
then by some miracle \[x^2-41x+400=0\] factors as \[(x-25)(x-16)=0\] so you have two choices, \(x=25\) or \(x=16\) now you have to check and see if they work or not
how did you do that?!
by which i mean you have to check in the original equation \[\sqrt{x}=x-20\] if \(x=25\) then you get \[\sqrt{25}=25-20?\] \[5=5\checkmark\]
on the other hand if \(x=16\) you get \[\sqrt{16}=16-20?\] \[4=-4\] NO
How did he factor the trinomial?
no i mean how did you factor it?
so only one answer, namely \(x=25\)
ooh how did i factor \[x^2-41x+400=0\]??
Am I getting in the way satellite?
is that the question?
nah i wasn't paying attention to the question, my fault
yeah how do i factor
personally? i cheat
Hahahaha
how??
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x^2-41x%2B400%3D0 this one was cooked to be easy, though since it was pretty clear that your answer was going to be a perfect square
It's really not easy satellite to explain I know
To explain how you factor out
no i think i explained my method of cheating quite well
thats fine, i have no problem cheating
Because it's just trial and error
factoring is for donkeys
"two numbers whose product is 400 and whose some is -41" you have a few choices, but none so nice as the perfect squares -25 and -16
That we already know i think what we are intereted in whats the easiest cheating way of getting them
Ok, so the first step is to FOIL the right side and take off the square root. Then put the trinomial into the wolfram website and choose the option that works?
Hahahahahah
When you sitting in the exams you won't have access to wolfram website
My class already ended but i didnt pass so i have until 8am to get my grade up 3%
no finals for me!
Thats so funny !
What do you need to do to go up 3%?
I have to do like 5 assignments
How long are the assignments?
mmm around 15 problems
What can I do to help? Understand that I will most likely try to make you work. I want you to survive next year. I won't just give answers and tell you to let a website work.
I understand. Im going to relearn everything this summer, i just dont want an F to go on my permanent record
I don't want that either. Let's work. I won't run off.
Thanks!! Ok, so i have sqr x=x-12 and i factored it to x-12x+144 and now what
The website isnt liking that
When you squared the left side you got x When you squared the right side you should have gotten x^2 -24x +144. Do you see why?
yeah! ok so lemme try that in the website
The website? Is that where you show your work for the assignment?
No i was talking the the wolfram website but it isnt really working.
So what do i do after x^2-12x+144?
Gather everything on the x^2 side so you have: trinomial = 0
ok so x^2-12x+144=0
\[x = x^{2} - 24x + 144\] \[0 = x^{2} - 25x + 144\] This is where we should be.
ok, then i just solve it like a regular equations right?
True. What will you do?
its 16!!!!!!!
and ......
ok, so that was the simple one.... @RT{5x+19}-x=5
oops! thats supposed to be a square root sign
On the last problem, did you see that there were two solutions 9, 16 but only 16 really worked in the original problem. 9 was an extraneous solution.
yes i tried them both but 9 didnt work :)
sqrt(5x+19) - x = 5 ?
The 5x+19 are both under the square root sign
When dealing with radicals, you always try to get the radical alone and everything else on the other side. Also, with multiple radicals, you get radicals on opposite sides of the equation.
ok
So.....what are you thinking?
that this is going impossible haha. sqr5x-19=x+5
Fine. Now you should proceed like before.
square everything?
Right. Left side just loses the radical.
right. 5x-19=x^+25
(x+5)(x+5) -----> x^2 ______ +25 Something is missing.
you lost me
Multiply each thing in the first parentheses by each thing in the second. x*x + 5*x +5*x + 5*5
x^2+10x+35
+ 25 Now get everything on one side and factor.
thats what i meant
ok thanks for the help.
What did you get?
i didnt get anything. im still confused but i think i will figure it out. thanks for trying to help
You had the sides. When you combined like terms on one side you should have: x^2 +5x +6=0
thanks
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