Question

Cruelty still exists in this world.
And some in it's worst forms.
Animals are being killed- in the very worst way imaginable. Unnecessarily. And all? For our cosmetics. For OUR enjoyment. For money.

570,000 animals murdered. Every year.
219 animals are killed every minute in a U.S. lab.

http://www.change.org/petitions/l-oreal-stop-animal-cruelty-stop-testing-on-innocent-animals

http://i40.tinypic.com/2nlab6d.jpg

Answer 1

I am a vegetarian as well.

Answer 2

I stopped eating meat 7 years ago and I only use products I know for sure aren't tested on animals.

Answer 3

So you want people to stop killing animals and want everyone to be a vegetarian,Well not possible because if we don't kill animals their will be more animals than humans,Plus it's in Muslims religion to slaughter animals on Eid-ul-adha and it is necessary if you can afford,So yeah,Sorry.

Answer 4

@eeveewutwut I admire you :)

Answer 5

I myself don't eat meat specially of cow and goat,Oh but my people LOVE it :D

Answer 6

No I never said to stop killing animals I just said stop doing it for fun.

Answer 7

Oh no,like hunting? We should not kill animals for fun,well i think they kill animals to eat right? then it's alright :)

Answer 8

exactly

Answer 9

Eating seems to be for pleasure, sorry.
Many new studies prove that vegetarians live up to 10 years longer.

Answer 10

Oh maybe,but you can't make people stop from eating meat,Like we non-vegetarians can't stop you guys from eating vegetables :)

Answer 11

Uh huh, if a meat-eater defies logic, then yes, there's no way to stop you :)

Answer 12

@uri Okay, since it's in muslim religions its right.
Good thinking, max.

More animals then humans?
Lol.
I doubt it.
And if so, why does it matter?
You could say that they're too many humans, and the animals don't have enough place to live.
Over-population is another issue. An entirely separate.
Do animals kill us because of over-population? Lol.

Answer 13

I realized that humans are actually very selfish and egotistical.
Maybe thats why all these animals are getting killed for their commercial products.

Answer 14

Is slaughtering animals a sin? I don't think so. 3:

Answer 15

We aren't killing them for fun..:P

Answer 16

Slaughtering animals a sin?
Why don't you think so?

Answer 17

Do you see how smart pigs are?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/opinion/thinking-about-pigs-before-theyre-food.html?_r=0

Answer 18

http://humansarehealthy.com/2011/12/pigs-considered-to-be-smarter-than-3.html

Answer 19

It's not a sin atleast in my religion,And oh don't show me a pig,Eating Pig is Haram (Ilegal) in my religion.
You can see here :
" Forbidden to you for (food) are: dead meat,
blood and the flesh of the swine and that
which hath been invoked the name other than
Allah. "
Holy Qur'an 5:4

Oh and aren't you a christian? It's in Bible too :
" The pig also because it is a splitter of the
hoof but there is no cud. It is unclean for
you. None of their flesh must you eat and carcass
you must not touch. "
Deuteronomy 14:8 ( Bible)

Answer 20

If you're so much into a religion, were you follow it blindly above your conscience or logic, sorry, I can't help you.

Answer 21

Moreover, this quote:
"The pig also because it is a splitter of the hoof but there is no cud. It is unclean for you. None of their flesh must you eat and carcass you must not touch."
Seems to be encouraging not eating meat.

Answer 22

And yes, back in the time, there were no supermarkets. You had to hunt-
NOW, alternatives exist everywhere.

Answer 23

Yes,i very much believe in Almighty Allah :) And the Holy book (Quran),Thankyou so much.

Answer 24

And I just said about *eating pigs meat* Not other animals. :)

Answer 25

And (as proven by the quote that you shared) the Bible encouraged not eating meat.

Answer 26

Lol it's written only about the pig's meat.

Answer 27

Genesis 1:29 "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be food for you. And to the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food."

Answer 28

That's what Bible says? But i see no christian following this :D But thankgod Quran doesn't say this :3

Answer 29

Why thank god?

Answer 30

I can't live without CHICKEN!! :D My family can't live without Cow and Goats meat. :3

Answer 31

It's obvious that you (and most humans) want to eat meat and use animal-tested products for your pleasure.

I know why a lot of christians don't follow this.

Answer 32

The term “cruelty-free product” is generally understood within the animal rights movement as a product that has not been tested on animals by the manufacturer. It’s important to buy cruelty-free products to support companies that are animal-friendly and to boycott companies that still test on animals.

Answer 33

Agreed @eeveewutwut

Answer 34

Vegetarianism has become the most popular diet among the young generations facing the new millennium. This discipline eliminates the intake of meat and in some cases also the consumption of dairy products and eggs. Are there enough reasons to make you change your eating habits? My purpose is to prove that vegetarianism is the diet that offers more benefits to our health, spirit, and society.

Answer 35

Still, 5% of the population in the USA are vegetarian.
So at least it's something.

Answer 36

@thomaster what do you think?

Answer 37

I'm curious for his opinion, as well.

Answer 38

Also I've been in a lot of animal testing laboratories (only for medical purposes though), those animals are treated well and I don't consider it cruel but necessary. I can't judge the testing on cosmetic products though.

About eating mead... it's not a bad thing, as long as the animals had a good life and were slaughtered properly, which is most likely the case for meat in the Netherlands. There are many rules for that here.

Answer 39

*meat :P not mead

Answer 40

So if 219 dogs were killed every minute, would you be fine with it?
Including your own dog?

Answer 41

And even health-wise
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2013/s3776126.htm

Answer 42

I have no real opinion either way. Anyone can eat what they want, that is their natural right. To eat meat is completely natural. We as humans have teeth designed for it. We have sharp front teeth as well as canine teeth. But we also have grinding teeth made for "foliage".

As far as the killing of animals is concerned it all depends. If you are killing wantonly it isn't ok. Just to take the life of an animal as a trophy is cruel and uncalled for. However, if you hunt and kill an animal and use it for sustenance that is acceptable.

Slaughterhouses are a completely different beast. The animals lead a pretty good life up until they are killed nearly instantly. It is a humane process that has just happened to have been automated.

There are pro's and con's to either side of the argument. It is all about your own personal belief system and what you choose to think.

Those are my two cents, take them for what they are. No offense intended to anyone either.

Answer 43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNu6sY2duAY
False.
Look up anywhere.
Animals are killed HORRIBLY in slaughterhouses.

Answer 44

Dogs? I wouldn't be fine with dogs being killed.

Answer 45

Why not, @thomaster ?

Answer 46

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/27/opinion/thinking-about-pigs-before-theyre-food.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/science/10angier.html

Answer 47

Because who eats Dogs? No one,It ain't good to eat.

Answer 48

Is that the only reason? @uri Is there no morality to it?

Answer 49

My point is that you wouldn't be fine with a dog being killed, yet you are fine with any other animal, like pigs.

Answer 50

I realize that there are some exceptions, however the regulations of the industry requires a near instantaneous death. Whether that be by electric current across the brain or through a bolt.
Those instances of seemingly cruel deaths are typically a malfunction. If they are not, they are illegal. I am speaking of the US in all of my opinions for the record.

Answer 51

Because dogs were breed to be human companion as opposed to pigs and boar which are wild animals

Answer 52

dogs are bred to be pets.
pigs are bred to be eaten.

Answer 53

Guys you do realize the way humans were made we are supposed to eat meat right? So that involves killing animals, it's the circle of life, then we die and animals eat the grass we fertilized with our decaying corpses, now as for killing for fun and abusing I do not agree.

Answer 54

And the reason why we are uncomfortable with a dog being killed is because we have kept them as pets for millenia. The other animals that we are referring to have been raised as sustenance, not as companions.

And now that I have written all this, @Ashleyisakitty has already written it. I am not going to delete all this time and effort however.

Answer 55

Dogs actually were once despised animals...

Answer 56

Dogs are impure because they carry many harmful micro-organism.Muslims are not allowed to eat the meat of such animals. Because when they are slaughtered most of their blood does not leave their nerves. Blood is impure for us. It is a good medium of disease causing micro-organisms. Blood is prohibited in the Glorious Quran.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #173)

There are some animals which god tells us not to eat.

Answer 57

You can eat all animals and I agree with it, now whether or not your stomach can take it is a whole nother' story.

Answer 58

my sister saw the pics and shes mad we have a bunny it makes me want to cry i hate the way they treat lil animals they are part of this world smh.

Answer 59

We should head over to L'Oreal and spray the chemicals on them >:D

Answer 60

On the testers of course not animals :P

Answer 61

haha yes lol my sister said that shes like "ima test it on them see how they feel" but shes 10 shell be scared but not me *evil laugh*

Answer 62

@dumbsearch2 So you are implying that the bible DOESN'T allow us to eat meat?

Answer 63

Well that's just preposterous...

Answer 64

How would be develop new medicine without animal testing? That's impossible.
However testing hairspray on cats is a big no.

Also what are we discussing? animal cruelty or veganism?
Those are 2 different subjects.

Answer 65

@JA1 YESS LOOOOL,I want him to get the fact he just can't make people Non -Vegetarians,Vegetarians and Vice versa :3 It's not a sin,Only their are some animals like Dog,Cat and Pig and even more which are sin to eat in my religion because of the dirty blod but it's all my religion,my beliefs. :3

Answer 66

@thomaster They all relate on one single thing.
Hurting animals.

Answer 67

@uri I'm not saying that it's not a sin in your religion.

Answer 68

@JA1 All I was saying is that certain passages in the bible (I cited them) discourage eating meat.
Though I've also found some contradictory ones.

Answer 69

@austinL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWifo0YLrRI

Answer 70

@uri
I hope you understand that pain has nothing to do with blood.
The nervous system and brain has those functionalities.

Answer 71

And I hope you understand that I'm not doubting the fact that for the longest time animals have been eaten.
I'm not doubting the fact that humans have dogs as pets, and humans don't treat pigs as pets.

I'm doubting it from a moral standpoint, and a health standpoint.
Many recent studies are proving the benefits of a vegetarian lifestyle.

Many things have happened for the longest time. But are they always right?

Answer 72

I know this is a really unintelligent answer but I think eating animals for food is fine. We were born to eat animals. It's natural. I too think we should not be cruel to the animals but not stop eating them. You know if an animal could they would eat you in a second right. Even if you were gently with it. I tried not eating meat but I cant find one food that I could live off of that isn't nasty to me. I would write more but I got my points across. Sorry for spelling mistakes I was just typing this fast.

Answer 73

I doubt that a cow would eat you.
I doubt that a pig would eat you.

Answer 74

If they could they would.

Wild Dogs,and Wild Wolfs are agressive and will eat you, If a cow could some way eat you they would.

Answer 75

My gawd.

Answer 76

wat

Answer 77

You really think that a cow would eat you.

Answer 78

They're herbivores, and such loving/gentle creatures.

Answer 79

I know they are but so are dogs until they snap and knaw on your neck. I know a herbivore isnt a good example.

Answer 80

I'm fine with you being a vegetarian. I tried a week without eating meat based on some articles I read and I cant seem to do it. I just find all my vegetarian friends throw it down my throat to become one. Same with religion I dont really care about religion or want to become one. You can do your thing I can do mine.

Answer 81

I just feel its the circle of life. We are at the top of the food chain and we were meant to eat meat. As long as its not cruel I'm fine with it.

Answer 82

I find killing an animal in all circumstances is cruel.

But you're right, its your opinion, and it's not my role to force anyone to become vegetarian.
I just like debating moral issues :)

Answer 83

Same here we can debate it's fun too as long as in the end. You know you have your opinion I have mine and we will never be able to change each others opinions.

Answer 84

@dumbsearch2 well I understand why you would think that but when the bible says "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be food for you. And to the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food." it is very clearly saying that god gave us trees to eat, but never said he gave us trees to live off of, and also when you think about it, animals have no real common sense, they act on instinct, they don't say "oh look this guy who is on my owners lawn looks ok" or "hey this guy on my turf looks mean i'm going to defend" no, all they think is "My owner doesn't want anyone on his lawn, I will attack" which only proves they have no real thoughts, they have emotions and such but not real thoughts, so when you kill an animal he is not going to act like a human, he will simply know hos time is up and nothing more, besides if it were morally wrong to eat animals then why do animals kill themselves? Also why did god accept sacrifices from animals back like centuries ago? Also the bible is very complex, you need to look at the context to understand it.

Answer 85

Yes @mattgibson debating is fun, just as long as no one get's all sentimental about it and starts a war xD

Answer 86

@dumbsearch2 A pig will definitely eat you, no doubt about that. A cow won't.

Answer 87

But we enjoy eating cow.no? :D

Answer 88

@thomaster A pig would eat you.
Might as well cite your sources? :D

Answer 89

Well i could find some online sources.
But at farms here, people are discouraged to enter a pig barn alone. This because when you pass out surrounded by pigs, they'll eat you. Pigs are omnivores, they'll eat anything

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19796224

Answer 90

Cool.
Thats one.
Now cite me another one.

Answer 91

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090302011848AAZjVDa
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6195860.stm

Answer 92

Now I'll cite when a human eats another human.

Answer 93

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528331_10200821507082894_639168117_n.jpg My dog abbey eats meat and she king looks like a pig....

Answer 94

she could totally eat someone.. she ate a cat once

Answer 95

I guess we can try to stop people from eating meat but we can't stop animals is my point.

Answer 96

Interesting point.
My dog never even harmed anyone, let alone a human.
They're some obscure cases of animals trying to/eating a human, but it's really not that common as it is in humans.