Can someone help me with a multi step problem?
What is the problem?
@amistre64 :3
what would you suggest we do for the first part?
wrong question 1st..
Could do up until here
My textbook doesn't do a very good job of explaining this part
i got no idea what thats talking about :/ use the "help me solve this" option on the right side there and it will step you thru it with explanation. if i knew your book and chapter, i might be able to access a simliar question on interact.com
My book is Using and Understanding Math 5e
Author: Bennett
CHapter 12A
http://interactmath.com/Exercises.aspx?chapterId=12§ionId=1&objectiveId=-1 well, it has the book and chapter :)
yayay
question 16 looks like yours
You are looking at Chapter 12: Section A?
yes
i added up the votes, and the plurality is the top of the most votes im not to the runoff yet
which excercise did u click on?
im here :
exercise 31
That doesn't look like what im working on..
since 38/82 is less then 50% A was not your majority
ah i understand that part but now for the top two candidates.
for a single runoff, the 2 candidates with the most 1stplace votes have a runoff, the winner wins the election ...
38 for A versus 29 for B; the difference is what .. 9 votes?
Yeah 9
sorry, that thought was not good, it yelled at me lol
What yelled at u? the asnwer?
the program said i did it wrong .. then told me how to get the correct result. Im working the "help me solve this" option count all the columns where A is ahead of B in your question
ONly once
38 people?
you notice that our top candidates are A and B A is picked 38 times over B B is picked 29+15 times over A; of 44 times over A right?
Ok
since B takes 44 votes overall, and A takes 38 votes overall .. who wins?
candidate b is the winner of the tip two run of?
yes
do you see why?
cuz has more over all votes?
those who voted for D have to choose between A and B since those who voted for D chose B over A; then D votes are added to B votes
Then to find winner by sequential run off , meaning it eliminates the candidate with the fewest 1st place votes?
Then to find winner by sequential run off , meaning it eliminates the candidate with the fewest 1st place votes?
yeah, im getting yelled at on that one too lol
u put wrong answer?
who wins the 5th place votes?
A?
read that wrong still .... the candidates that were not chosen for the first place spots (3 win, and 2 arent even left in the running) are C and E ... right?
uh yeah i think so
How many 1st place votes does A get? How many 1st place votes does B get? How many 1st place votes does C get? How many 1st place votes does D get? How many 1st place votes does E get?
38 1st place votes A got?
IM having trouble understanding the chart
just read the number off the bottom to determine how many votes the top row received
38
How many 1st place votes does A get? 38 How many 1st place votes does B get? 29 How many 1st place votes does C get? 0 How many 1st place votes does D get? 15 How many 1st place votes does E get? 0 since C and E are tied with 0 first place votes, erase them from the matrix 1 A B D 2 D A B 3 B D A 38 29 15 you agree?
ok i follow that
So, the sequential run off gives a tie among A and B?
now we run it again A get 38 B gets 29 D gets 15 <-- D loses
1 A B B 2 B A A 38 29 15 A = 38 <-- loses B = 29+15 = 44 run again 1 B B B 38 29 15 B wins again
might have that wrong too
B keeps winning!
A has 38 while B has at most 30 is what it looks to be yelling about ...
A has at most 38, B has at most 29 ..cant type
ugh ... I simply clicked the wrong one ... ; yeah, B wins the most votes
So its the winner by sequential run off is A?
no, B i just hit the wrong option and it yelled at me and I was trying to figure out why it would be yelling at me lol
wait like option B or candiadate B
well, since i got no idea what your options are .... im addressing this in terms of candidate
The winner by sequential run off is B
yep
now what is a Borda count?
now we have to find the borda count winner
any idea on how this system works?
5 places gives us point values from 1 to 5 position in a column gives us a point value, and number of votes is a mulitpler A 5 3 1 B 2 5 3 C 3 2 4 D 4 1 5 E 1 4 2 38 29 15 A = 38(5) + 29(3) + 1(15) B = 38(2) + 29(5) + 1(3) etc ...
if we setup a matrix like this: we see that A wind with 2(146) points http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%5B%7B5%2C3%2C1%7D%2C%7B2%2C5%2C3%7D%2C%7B3%2C2%2C4%7D%2C%7B4%2C1%2C5%7D%2C%7B1%2C4%2C2%7D%5D+dot+%5B%7B38%7D%2C%7B29%7D%2C%7B15%7D%5D
Aggggggggh
yeah, i hear ya .... this is just plain brutal. something called pairwise comparison is next that might take years to complete ...
SO in order to find out the winner by a borda count i have to do that for each candidate?
yes .... vote count times placement value, plus the next and the next
which is why i just made a matrix write up of it ...
So c= 38(3)+29(2)+1(4)?
correct
do you see where i get the numbers from tho? thats the key to the borda method
not really
oh its how many 1st place votes
think of it like this; you get money depending on which position you come in at; first position gets $5 per vote, second position gets $4 per vote, etc ... down to last position gets $1 per vote. tally up the postions by how many votes they get in that position and add up the money
A gets 38 first place votes: 38(5) A gets 29 third place votes: 29(3) A gets 15 fifth place votes: 15(1) A gets how much money total? 38(5)+29(3)+15(1) then calculate the winnings for all the other candidates and see who gets the most money
A= 237 B= 124 C=176 D= 186 E=156
i think your numbers are alittle off, but thats expected from so much calculations
A= 292 B= 266 C= 232 D= 256 E= 184
A= 38(5)+29(3)+1(15) B= 38(2)+29(5)+1(3) C= 38(3)+29(2_+1(4) D= 38(4)+29(1)+1(5) E= 38 (4)+29(4)+1(2) ?
third column has 15 votes, not 1 vote A= 38(5)+29(3)+15(1) B= 38(2)+29(5)+15(3) C= 38(3)+29(2)+15(4) D= 38(4)+29(1)+15(5) E= 38 (4)+29(4)+15(2) ^^^ and E has a 1 there, since they came in last place
237, 266,232,256,298?
not quite ... your still hitting some wrong key i think
A= 292 B= 266 C= 232 D= 256 E= 184
yeah i was typing something wrong lol
wait for E im getting 298
38(4)+29(4)+15(2)
E= 38(1)+29(4)+15(2)
E came in last place ($1) at 38 votes
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