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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alg2 help (picture) Elimination

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nvm I get this one

OpenStudy (ranga):

2x + y = 9 x - 2z = -3 2y + 3z = 15 Is this the problem you need to solve by elimination?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

#5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nvm I actually need help in both...

OpenStudy (ranga):

2x + y = 9 ----- (1) x - 2z = -3 ----- (2) 2y + 3z = 15 -----(3) Multiply second equation by 2 and subtract it from the first equation: 2x + y = 9 2x - 4z = -6 Subtract y + 4z = 15 Multiply the above equation by 2 and subtract it from equation 3 2y + 8z = 30 2y + 3z = 15 Subtract 5z = 15 z = 3 2y + 3z = 15. Substitute z = 3 2y + 9 = 15 2y = 15 - 9 = 6 y = 3 Equation 1) is 2x + y = 9. Substitute y = 3 2x + 3 = 9 2x = 9 - 3 = 6 x = 3 So x = 3, y = 3, z = 3

OpenStudy (ranga):

You can use the same method to solve the other equation: 2x - y + z = -4 ------- (1) 3x + y - 2z = 0 ------- (2) 3x - y = -4 ------- (3) The last equation has only x and y and no z. So try eliminating z using equations 1 and 2 first. Let me know if you get stuck.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright Ill try it now!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got 7x - y = - 8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I multiplied 1st equation by 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then eliminated with the second equation

OpenStudy (ranga):

Correct. So you have 7x - y = -8 and the third equation is: 3x - y = -4 Eliminate y from these two equations.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ohh.. I just used that equation and made y = 7x + 8 then I substituted in 3x - y = -4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is that correct too?

OpenStudy (ranga):

You can do that too. But simply subtracting the two equations will eliminate y 7x - y = -8 3x - y = -4 subtract to get rid of y.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So far I got x is 3 and y is 13

OpenStudy (anonymous):

z is 3

OpenStudy (ranga):

Not correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all of them?

OpenStudy (ranga):

In these types of problems if you get one of the values wrong then all other values will also be wrong because they depend on the the other values.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay so how would you do it?

OpenStudy (ranga):

Well, let us retrace your steps. Earlier you had y = 7x + 8 and you said you substituted y in 3x - y = -4 Why don't you do that here and I will see what you get.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x is 3

OpenStudy (ranga):

No. Show me the step-by-step before you solved for x. Start with y = 7x + 8 and substitute y in 3x - y = -4 Show me the step-by-step

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2x - y + z = -4 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I multiplied it by 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[7x - y = -8\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is what I got, then I subtracted 7x from both sides and I got:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[y = 7x +8\]

OpenStudy (ranga):

OK. Next step?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright so then I plugged in the Y for: \[3x - 7x + 8 = -4\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3x - 7x is = -4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then minus 8 from both sides and -4x = -12..so now divide by -4 and x is 3

OpenStudy (ranga):

The mistake is in plugging in the y.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

positive 7?

OpenStudy (ranga):

You had y = 7x + 8 Plug y in 3x - y = -4 3x - (7x + 8) = -4 3x -7x - 8 = -4 (you had +8 and that is the error)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why is 8 negative?

OpenStudy (ranga):

y = 7x + 8 When you put the above y in 3x - y you have to remember to put a parenthesis around y so it should be 3x - ( substitute the y value here ) 3x - (7x + 8) Now remove the parentheses. 3x - 7x - 8

OpenStudy (ranga):

3x - y means you are subtracting y from 3x. But if y is made up of two parts: 7x + 8 then each part of y has to be subtracted from 3x so it becomes 3x - 7x - 8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then how do I combine 3x - (7x+8) = -4 ?

OpenStudy (ranga):

what is -(a + b) if you remove the parenthesis?

OpenStudy (ranga):

-(a + b) = -a - b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x is 1?

OpenStudy (ranga):

so -(7x + 8) = -7x - 8

OpenStudy (ranga):

Not quite. X is not 1. Watch out for the signs

OpenStudy (anonymous):

7x - 8?

OpenStudy (ranga):

You have 3x - (7x + 8) = -4 First get rid of the parenthesis. When ridding the parenthesis, the minus sign outside should be applied to each term inside the parenthesis. So 3x - (7x + 8) = -4 becomes 3x - 7x - 8 = -4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got 1 for x again

OpenStudy (ranga):

what is 3x - 7x ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-4x

OpenStudy (ranga):

correct. so -4x - 8 = -4 solve for x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

plus 8 both sides

OpenStudy (ranga):

corrcet.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[-4x = -4\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then divide by -4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which is 1

OpenStudy (ranga):

-4x - 8 = -4 8 8 (add 8 to both sides of the equation) -4x = 4 (not minus 4) So x = ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh!! -1 !!

OpenStudy (ranga):

Good!

OpenStudy (ranga):

What is y & z?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x = -1 y = 1 z = 1

OpenStudy (ranga):

check for z again.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

z = -1

OpenStudy (ranga):

Yes! x = -1, y = 1, z = -1. Once you solve these type of problems always substitute the values for x, y, z into the left hand side of the original 3 equations to see if you get the right hand side. That way you will know your answers are correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

FINALLY!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you for helping me!

OpenStudy (ranga):

No problem. Pay attention to the signs. Use parenthesis when substituting when there are many terms. Good Luck!

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