Could you please help me solve part b? https://www.dropbox.com/s/3crr9qqfqplsr9d/Screenshot%202013-11-02%2007.24.44.jpg
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Do you use kinematic equations?
I am afraid that this is my first time in this section and somethings that can be consider basic to others to me are unfamiliar
@Christos From the graph can you find the max height?
its more or less 200 right ?
'about' 200
I am going to watch how ash solves this problem.
Cool, can you find the corresponding horizontal distance?
from the graph ?
yes
about 6.5
okay, let's just look at the vertical motion, let the vertical component of velocity be u Now the projectile is launched, Is there any force acting in vertical direction?
the diagonal ?
x-axis ?
Christos read the first line of the question
may it be gravity ?
I dont understand these 2 terms: trajectory and projectile
yes, it acts vertically downwards. So when our projectile is launched, it's being slowed every moment. Until its vertically at rest, that's the point of it's max height.
Please not it'll be at rest only for a moment, then it'll start coming down.
I see
Trajectory is the shape of the motion, suppose if a man moves straight in line. Its trajectory will be straight.|dw:1383630768449:dw|
the velocity starts from 0 ?
Christos we can't have velocity start from 0, that would be the case of a rocket, it has a propulsion system which will accelerate it and increase its velocity from 0. Here on the other hand, we impart a velocity to the projectile. For example if you throw a ball straight up, you impart velocity to the ball only in vertical direction. Suppose 50m/s, as it goes up, it'll start to slow down.
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here the ball will go straight up and come down straight down. As we have not given it any vertical velocity, it'll come down straight in your hand. There will be no horizontal motion
oh
Are you followin?
I mean horizontal sorry.
so in this problem I just throw something up
Nope that's the catch, you can see it moving along in x direction as well. So you're imparting velocity in both horizontal and vertical direction
oh
Like the goal keeper kicks the ball in a football match. ball moves both horizontally and vertically
Do you follow till here.
Yes I understand
Cool, so for finding only the vertical velocity, just focus at vertical motion. Ball moves up, reach the highest point and comes back down. Let the initial vertical velocity be u, it'll reach the highest point at that point vertical velocity would be zero, wouldn't it ?
yes thats right
0 and then it will start falling
yes, so do you know the max height?
ok so when v = 0 hight = 200
yes, use this \[v^2-u^2=2as\] v=0 s=200 a=gravity u=initial vertical velocity
ok hold
Christos one important thing
sqrt(3920)
yes ?
the vertical initial velocity is upwards and gravity is downwards. Make sure to assign them opposite signs, if vertical direction upwards is +ve then \[u=+ve\] \[a=-g\]
will this change my result ?
like -sqrt(3920)
because I just can't take it inside lol
the minus
ohhh it will become + because its already -
if you assume upwards as +ve and downwards as -ve it'll be the same \[u=\sqrt{3920}\]
so your part b is solved, do you understand?
ok got it
what type of formula do I need to use in order for me to solve c ?
That can be easily solved, as we have the initial vertical velocity now. \[v-u=at\] v=0. u= you just found out a=-g t=????
ok its my previews answer divided by gravity and a minus
Time , it has to be positive. Remember that there is a -ve sign with g yes, other wise it is correct
oh so its positive because its time
yes,
for d I have to use V=dx4/dt ?
Nope, this is also straight forward. When you launched the projectile, you gave it a horizontal velocity h Now you already know the time for max height, at that time from the graph you can figure out the horizontal distance. Divide distance by time to get the horizontal velocity.
horizontal distance is 6.5 ??
yes,
oh so that would be 63.7/sqrt(3920)
now there has to be some angle formula I think
You used the time for max height and horizontal distance to find the horizontal velocity, didn't you?
yes
good, it's easy to find angle.|dw:1383633103745:dw| \[\tan \theta=\frac{vertical}{horizontal}\]
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