Was math discovered or invented?
hehe it posts to the whole math section...
disvented :P
that is a good question...
Im with @ganeshie8 its a little bit of both.
Hehehe I am telling you it was discovered. After all, who would know it better than one who discovered it ?
my argument is that the Pythagoreans were doing math, and yet they were not doing it correctly.
Actually many historians and mathematicians believe that man was as old as humans as they started counting using sticks
like they didn't believe in irrational numbers ....
Depends on what you think definition of math is ?
Sorry, I meant math not man (in my second comment)
If you consider even counting to be math, then , it was very very before (at least many decades before I was born). If you consider advanced topology to be math, well they did not have that much good luck. :(
based on that logic we can fit everything into discovery i guess - no inventions in math. even the poets discover poems, they never invent ?
but the topology was always there, but it didn't mean anything until someone talked about it.
Yeah, but than geometry must be the oldest branch. Because many of them would have been drawing strange geometrical figures during sleep... ;) (jk)
Actually, I think I just found out what I am going to work in.. geometrical figures most drawn during sleep :P
On serious note, I don't think we can say that math was "discovered" or "invented", I think it was just renamed.
math is so strange. I think about extending the real numbers to the complex numbers we have some set of real numbers and we want a solution to x^2=-1 so we "invent" i then we just throw it and all its scalar/additive multiples and call it C. I mean the construction of the complex numbers from the real numbers is as simple as saying Let it be.
It was present in the beginning but never had any proper name. Its just that it caught the attention of humans many years later.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/derek-abbott/is-mathematics-invented-o_b_3895622.html
Yeah some things are better "let be so..."
there is a great book called "is god a mathematician" that is about this very subject.
^^^nothing to do with religion.
Question worth writing a book on - "Is god a mathematician"
anyway, for posing the question.
not to give away the ending, but he does not answer the question.... lol
Mario Livio ?
NOOOOOOOO !! Please tell its wrong..
I was planning to read it ... :'(
the first thing you get on it when you google is Jan 6, 2009 - In Is God A Mathematician, Mario Livio tries to explain the ...... (but makes no effort to answer) t
it prob says it on the cover...
Who searched on google ? I have my own site for searching books ;).
But, I am not going to reveal its name. I don't want to be caught for copyright issues (hint, hint)
I am saying that he might tell you that on the first page of the book. he makes it clear that the question is unanswerable, and does come to some conclusion that is a semi answer in his opinion, of which I wont share:P
Hey, thats not fair.
its a good read:)
You read it ?
A few years ago, I was giving a talk at Cornell University. One of my PowerPoint slides read: “Is God a mathematician?” As soon as that slide appeared, I heard a student in the front row gasp: “Oh God, I hope not!” LOL
Arrest this student. He inspired him to write this book....One more book !
lots of great history, like the fact that L'hospital was not a good mathematician and the Bernoulli brothers came up with the famous theorem with his namesake. he gave them money so they didnt have to go to work, and they in return put his name on a little lemma they came up with.
Really ? ^^
yeah:)
Where did you read that? I too want to..
I think its in that book.
I took some math history classes as an undergrad also, so it might have came up in there, but I think it was in there.
but I think it was in that book*
I watched a doco called 'the story of maths' i think it was produced by the BBC and it was full of awesome maths history.
Okay, but *9 chapters* on maths history.. Its really boring . :(
damn british and their "maths"
:D
I love math history, that stuff is crazy.
people died over square root of 2
what do you call it
the pythagoreans would not pick something up if they dropped it, would not light fire next to a mirror, would not eat beans, would not kneel, would not....
Such a stupid thing to die for.. at least they could have died over sqrt(9), they would have did happy thinking that they gave the most accurate value possible (just joking)
we use x because it looks like khi which they used because the Spanish does not have a sound for sh which is what the original Arabic word for variable started with
and khi and sh were the closest
Damn.. I cannot pursue maths as got selected for BE. Otherwise, I would have been preparing for a degree in that by now.
i knw the x story lol reminds me of @ikram002p 's post few days ago
there is some proof that newton was in the same country as lebinitz at the same time.
Why @ganeshie8
Ahh differentiation laws ?
I bet Fermat had a 2 page proof for that famous theorem.
With the advent of calculators why do they still insist on rationalizing the denominator to this day? If doing by hand I can understand evaluating sqrt(2) / 2 is easier than evaluating 1 / sqrt(2).
its good practice to understand how exponents work
But not enough space in the side of his notebook :P Yeah I remember that. I still laugh on that. How can someone say that ?
*Fermat's theorem
but Fermat was going green that time, he must have had proof in his head lol
one of the 1000's
Sorry, *Fermat's last theorem Yeah @ganeshie8. You cracked the mystery Sherlock
that guy was such an a**hole he would prove things for himself and then send out a note to all the other mathematicians asking if they could do it, and never giving the answer.
he was not even a mathematician, he studied law and had people executed
Yeah and then saying I didn't have enough space for proof
he just did the math on the side for fun......lol
he was a lawyer, he was not allowed to carry luggage to court everyday
haha lolz history of mathmatics + x story nothing better :3
Euler was blind and could recite math books from memory
because he was not always blind....
O.O ?
Not always blind ? Did he have some switch ?
people go blind...
lol
lol
hahaha
if the rest of your body lasted, so would you.
That's one of the best @zzr0ck3r
:)
shhh no talking about eluer lol he was amazing guy
I think Fermat is my favorite mathematician, because he just did that simple math stuff on the side....and Euler is my second because he is......Euler.
:P
Because he was Euler O.o
did you know that there is a president that made his own proof for the Pythagorean theorem?
Yup
its one of the famous 100 or so proofs
Me !
crazy, and then he got shot:(
No not at all me
I am still alive.. thank you very much
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