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rvc (rvc):

do u feel that girls in indian society are fully safe?

rvc (rvc):

@Abhisar @nirmalnema @aayushi.somani @Mashy @Brainybeauty @deepika.comet please give me ur views:)

OpenStudy (deepika.comet):

Obviously not..:)

OpenStudy (deepika.comet):

Every parent must teach their own children about the respect to be given to a girl in the society.. If this is done, the so called ------------cases all around gets stopped. Everything happens just because they lack knowledge and the girls also are a part of this i.e. their dressing sense, attitude are responsible for such things.. so the girls and boys both play equal role in such cases strong counselling must be given to every girl and a boy to overcome this problem..

OpenStudy (deepika.comet):

@quickstudent

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

I agree @deepika.comet . I also think that since Indians teach their children more than any other country, it is the safest place for girls. But of course, there are problems everywhere, and especially with the way people are getting more and more western. As long as we all stay with our own tradition, and be girls with strength and honor, as we were in older times, we will all be safe. We have to go back to our own culture.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No... Girls in Indian society are not safe at all... Sorry @deepika.comet I don't agree fully with you. It's right that parents should give their kids proper counselling. That's totally correct. But it's not a girl's fault if someone harasses her. I mean, girls never asked anyone to harass them. No man has the right to invade a woman's territory, her privacy and freedom. And even if a girl "asked for it", it doesn't really matter. Girls have all rights to wear what they want to look fashionable or attractive or just because they feel comfortable in that outfit. Who are herassers and perverts to determine their dressing sense? Who is anyone in the whole wide world to decide what girls wear or how they behave? I go out in my most decent dresses and I still can't get rid of the pervy eyes on me. So tell me, is it me or is it them at fault? Yes, girls ARE doing a crime if they don't rebel, if they don't say it's enough, if they don't fight against the crimes. If they don't try to stop people from doing wrong things, they are doing a crime against all women of the world, by giving men the courage and the freedom to commit such crimes against other women. So I think girls should start being more free and wearing more comfortable clothing to suit the climate of India... And we need to fight and tell all the conservative people that we are not made for men to take out their frustration or to soothe their insecurity of "not being man enough". This is my message to all the girls --- Be a rebel!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't go for walks alone in my neighborhood at night; I'm too afraid. But if a woman were attacked for doing so, I certainly wouldn't blame her; I would blame the rapist. I'm all too aware of the limitations that fear puts on women's lives. Those who break through the fear and take the risks need and deserve our support.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

We're not blaming girls for it, @Brainybeauty . We're just saying that girls have to be smart. If girls don't have the intelligence to avoid situations, how will their rebeling be effective? You yourself said that you don't go outside alone at night. I am the same. So, Rebel! Don't let any man have the chance of even looking in the wrong way at you!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And @quickstudent Our culture and religion have been manipulated with a lot. So I don't think going back to culture and tradition will do any good. If you are talking about a few centuries a go, I don't think I'd want to see people being harassed for being born in a certain "social class". And I won't be able to tolerate sati-prathas and multigamy and child marriage and other forms of women's oppression. And if you're talking about the time described in "Mahabharata" and "Ramayana", you do remember Draupadi's chir-haran and how princess Amba was abandoned by her boyfriend, and how Dhritrashtra harassed his wife; and how Sita was forced to give agni-pariksha despite being fully committed to Rama, and how Rama ordered her to leave the kingdom when she had kids in her womb, and how Lakshman never cared about his wife, and how Sita cried and pleaded for death finally?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And how can us girls keep avoiding all that harassment? There needs to be a full stop to their harassing and our tolerance right? We can't tolerate being confined all the time. @quickstudent

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What do you think about this? - @quickstudent

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Please tell me, do you know of any WORLD WAR fought for the honor of a woman in recent times?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What do you mean?

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

That's what the Mahabharat war was started for.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, Mahabharata was started for that, but we don't really know if that was a real or a fictional book. And also, what are we going to do about the situation now. We can't live in those books. We need to change something NOW.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

That's what I am talking about, do something NOW. If parents would teach their sons to respect women like Devis, they wouldn't even have the thought in their heads about even touching a woman wrongly. The problem is, parents don't teach this to their sons. This is the cause of the whole problem. We need to pull out the problem from it's roots, and as long as we don't do that, the problem will continue.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's right. Parents never teach sons. But every girl in the nation needs to rebel.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Yes. Every girl in the nation needs to teach her sons to respect woman!

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Every girl in the nation should only marry men who respect women, and they should only make friends with men who will protect their honor like brothers!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Uh, yeah... And also, women in every house need to fight for their respect. But because of the quality of India's education, no one learns what is right.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Yes, I think it should be part of the education to teach the respect of women. I also think that if her family doesn't respect her honor, she shouldn't stay in that family. She should make her own family who respects woman as Devi.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, but who will get the awareness about it all to them? Our fights right?

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Well first of all the education has to change. I think the punishment for those kind of crimes should also change.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah but they will change if we fight for them. Or they would've been changed already.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Yes women have to make it happen, and men who respect women also have to make it happen.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's why I feel fighting for our rights is the most important thing to do right now. Because people like you and me are not going into politics.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah. So everyone is saying that. We are all a part of a movement.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

But what is your idea of fighting?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

By fighting I mean rebelling and protesting. We all should pester the govt till they are tired of our protests and finally do something big. We need to scare those men (and even women who don't try to stop all that) so bad that they don't dare to do anything wrong and join us in the protests.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Yes, thats right!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah. We need to let each and every person know that they are a form of the Devis and need to be respected just like them.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Absolutely

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:) Yeah

rvc (rvc):

@shrutipande9

rvc (rvc):

thanks @Brainybeauty @deepika.comet @quickstudent

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

YW @rvc

OpenStudy (deepika.comet):

hey @Brainbeauty . How can you tell mahabharatha is just in books..That great story explains us about the drastic situations that can occur and also it clearly explained what happened to the people who commit such..... In draupadi chir haran - she cursed dritharashtra family for which they all got ruined...there was no one else left in their family.. this just explains the result what happens when someone does bad to a girl.. You can take this war in such a way ..which shows the ruining of the family of the blind man.. And you cant tell... im wrong as i told that girls are not safe in this society that was my first reply "Obsolutely not" :) And more over what i told is every parent must teach their son and also'DAUGHTER' so that she can save herself in need... I dont know why you took me in a worng way but what i mentioned was clean and clear...

OpenStudy (deepika.comet):

And i want to be clear, the girls in INDIA are being victims of such cases ...by their closely related people [may be friends, neighbours, etc] so the girls must keep their respect - this is what i meant.. You may go out with a fully covered dress and the people [ men] around look at you... but you just leave them and go..that good..!! but few girls they look back at those men and start a relation which leads to such problems.. you can surf for this anywhere, the girls all around in INDIA are with no safety just because of the closely related people around them.. I hope this clears you that i was also telling girls are not SAFE in the society :)

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Correct, @deepika.comet

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

@Brainybeauty , it seems like you've heard some misinterpretations of the Ramayan stories.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

First of all, the story of Sita's agni pariksha, is just called a pariksha by others. It was really not a pariksha at all. Before ravan even came to know about Ram and Sita, Ram knew that Sita would be kidnapped by ravan, and he didn't want her to suffer all that pain. So, he sent her to Agnidev to protect her until the whole problem is over. Sita sent her reflection back to Earth to do the work. When it was all over(ravan was killed), Ram had to bring Sita back from Agnidev's protection back to Earth. Her reflection went in the fire, and Sita herself came out. Ram knew people would interpret the incident as a pariksha, but he allowed it, so that no one would be able to doubt her, and they would be forced to see her purity. But the fickleness of the minds of the people still doubted their own Mother.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Ram never ordered Sita to leave!!! :'( Here is the real story: The people were doubting Sita sooo much. They didn't know her at all. They even said that Ram shouldn't have taken Sita back!!! Heartless people :'( Ram tried his best to keep Sita from leaving, but she left willingly, because she didn't want to bring defame to Ram. Do you know how much they suffered? because of the people who don't even think about her devotion. I have no idea how they can be so heartless! :"(

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Sita was never hurt by Sri Ram, it was the people who made her plead for death in the end!!! :'(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh k! Thx for telling me these things @quickstudent :)

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Your welcome. oh, but what makes you say that Lakshman never cared for Urmila?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I watched Ramayana on NDTV and it showed that he left her... I need to research a bit more, I think.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

yeah, TV seriels don't always show what really happened.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, like, in this time's Mahabharata, they showed many things which were not in the book. I really like Ramayana and Mahabharata though. Do tell me more stories if you know.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Ok. Oh, are you talking about when Lakshman went with Ram to exile, or something else?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When Lakshman went to exile, right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And @deepika.comet Well men don't have the right to stare at girls like that. That's a form of harassment. So we have to stop that too. We have better things to do than to keep your eyes down all the time and try not too encounter these people, because try as we might, they're not going to stop by just that. We need to fight, scare them.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Ok, Here's what it was. Lakshman told Urmila not to come with him for a reason. His three mothers needed her. Lakshman didn't stay in the palace with her because Ram needed him. He actually suffered a lot from separation.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whats this about?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Scroll up @jeffreyfernando3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So was he sad about it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't want to read the whole convo lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's alright then. I forgive Lakshman LoL

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

yes, he was, and he felt the pain of Urmila too.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh Ramayana is not what I thought it to be. :/

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

yeah, that's why it is important to check the accuracy when you watch TV serials.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am catholic

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I like all religions. My religion is humanity.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah right @qu

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't know nothing about religion lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@deepika.comet And even if women do make bfs or whatever, it doesn't really matter. They don't want to be harassed by them or raped or attacked with acid on their faces or killed for giving birth to a daughter. So there needs to be a limit on those men, not the women who become victims. And it is the time to rebel. Because if we don't, these heartless, mentally dead people will get more courage to take bigger steps. And what happened in Mahabharata is quite different from what is happening now, don't you think? If girls complain, a Mahabharata starts against them. So instead of limiting ourselves, we should push them into their own limits, because if we don't, they'll grow to harass women more and more.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't watch mahabarat

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's a great book. You should read it. Or watch videos on the internet.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

noo i have to go from the beginning to watch it lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's really very very interesting, jeff. You won't be able to stop if you start watching the episodes, right @quickstudent ?

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Yes, absolutely!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but my cousin watches it lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So watch with him/her. Ask ur cousin for episodes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

she watches it online

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So watch it online LoL!!! If you want to :P

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

The whole thing is on youtube.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah but too lazy to go back to the beginning

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah! It is!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

As you wish. But you're missing on something totally amazing if you don't watch it. :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol yeah i know :(

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Um, @Brainybeauty , I don't think girls are rebeling by getting bf who don't respect woman.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

There's a great and astonishing story behind why Shakuni hated Bhishma Pitamah @quickstudent

OpenStudy (anonymous):

There's more to it than Bhishma just making Shakuni's sister marry blind Dhritrashtra

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Bhishma didn't make that happen. Gandhari herself wanted to marry him.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

well he did make the proposal, but he didn't force her into anything.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

that's why she blindfolded herself.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Gandhari didn't know he was blind. She came to know only after she agreed.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Hmmm, but I still think she made a mistake by not taking it off when she had kids.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah. She did a mistake. But she did get some special powers by keeping her eyes covered.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Yes, because of her devotion. But she would have had a happy and more devoted life if she would have become his eyes, instead of making them both permanently blind.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, blindfolding herself was a stupid thing to do. But the main reason why Shakuni hated Bhishma was because Bhishma had captured him and his 99 cousins and kept them in horrible conditions. So all the cousins decided to keep Shakuni alive because he was the smartest of all. And he took revenge from Bhishma by "playing" Mahabharata.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Really? Where did you hear that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I read about it somewhere. In one of my friend's cousin's IAS exam books.

OpenStudy (quickstudent):

Hmmm, I'd like to do some research on that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah! It's really interesting! Read about it over the net.

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