Question

Orange War do you want it too end if so let me know and i will do something about it

Answer 1

@e.mccormick

Answer 2

@tkhunny

Answer 3

@caitlinnr14

Answer 4

Tell me what language OpenStudy is primarily written in.

Answer 5

Do you understand why the Orange War is persistent. Hmmm...?

Answer 6

why exactly was i tagged? i honestly don't care:P

Answer 7

well i can tell you this it better then it saying that openstudy will be back

Answer 8

but the orange war has to stop

Answer 9

i can tell you that when orange war is going on no one can't do homework or ask for help or email that will come in time and @Compassionate openstudy can be in many language

Answer 10

tell me then why do you let it happened

Answer 11

That would require access to the code base and I seriously doubt that will happen easily.

Some time ago, OpenStudy looked into doing a Hack-a-Thon to get some things dealt with. They ran into legal issues with exposing the code base. This killed the idea. Because of that, I doubt they will ever simply expose the code base to anyone without fully vetting their identity and capabilities.

There have been a few programming interns. Most of them came from the school where the code was originally developed. I know of one that did not go there.

Also, the people that have been hired to develop the site are doing some serious code revisions to take care of the Orange War and other issues. I doubt they will be taking on anyone new at a time when the code state is volatile.

Answer 12

Cool ^^^

Answer 13

the code can be broke anytime you want it and also there is a why to stop the orange war

Answer 14

you still have the same hackers on here from a year ago but you don't know why this happend if there's a code there is a back door that does not involve a code

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As for, "tell me then why do you let it happened," well... Having a service fail for an esoteric problem that is hard to define is not something people let happen. It is a byproduct of how programming is done. Bugs can be in the programmer's code, the database program's code, any library's code, etc. This means that finding a solution can be a lot harder than you seem to be assuming that it would be.

Answer 16

yes i understand but you don't need a code
a bug can have target reason but that does mean you can work around it you can

Answer 17

i can work around it as much as you can but when i tell you might think it dumb but it will work

Answer 18

it up to you if you want to know

Answer 19

so are you willing to hear me out

Answer 20

you can close openstudy one day every mouth on a Saturday the reason is cus you have too much student pasting site on here that have bugs

your thought's

Answer 21

That is not at all realistic.

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people do paste site on here right

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like tinychat which has hackers

your thought's

Answer 24

You mean past links to other sites? A link, in of itself, does nothing. I am not sure what point you are trying to make and why you think that would have anything to do with the states of the notification services on the OpenStudy cluster.

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links now and in the past that have hackers that are on them i know cus i almost call the police on him

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and links has bug with them

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your thoughts

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you have 90% of hackers on this site

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and more hackers = orange war= no site

your thoughts

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@micahm , I feel like you're trying to propose solutions when you don't even understand the platform. Your ideas are not going to work. The people who know what they're doing are working on this problem.

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no i am for real

Answer 32

tell this if they know how to fix it then the orange war won't be this bad as it is now

your thought's

Answer 33

Yes, saying we should stop links because they might have hackers will totally fix broken code. Smh. The "orange war" has been improving, actually, it's been happening less frequently. But saying things like, taking the site down on a day when everyone is doing homework, or stopping people from linking outside things will not fix broken code.

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no some people i been with you for a year now and lately some student complain about so much they say swear words and no stop tinychat links
only allow link's that will help student

Answer 35

>legal issues with exposing the code base

such as what? o.o
I never heard about that part.

Answer 36

But that DOESN'T fix the orange.

Answer 37

Linking things and swearing, although distracting and distasteful, have nothing to do with the broken code that is fixing the orange.

Answer 38

yes it will the OPS system i override

Answer 39

It will not.

Answer 40

Go try and convince someone that has a computer science degree that sending a link breaks a website.

Answer 41

then why do you have hackers on this site breaking opestundy secret codes

Answer 42

Well, if the code is just god-awful, then it could, but OS's code doesn't seem THAT bad.

Answer 43

i know what i am talking about there are kids who are 16 and 17 years old hacking peoples and site

Answer 44

How do you know that it's a hacker breaking the website? Is it so hard to consider that maybe when someone changes this section of the code, that another section of the code could break? If it was a hacker that could see and do anything, they would do more than just block smart scores.

Answer 45

How do you know?

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Also, feel free to help the dev team once you learn Scala, HTML, Javascript, etc.

Answer 47

they can block people who did not block a person i 've seen a couple on this site

Answer 48

What are you talking about? o.o

Answer 49

I have no clue what he's even talking about. He's been insisting that swearing and posting tc links is causing the "orange war" -- absurd.

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Evidently we have 90% hackers on this site smh

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protip: it's not

Answer 52

for example if you were my fan and one day you were block but i did not block then you have be hack

sooo they can use you account to do something you did not do or say

Answer 53

Uhhhhhh, no. If someone blocks you, then it automatically acts as if you have blocked them back, because that's how the system works.

Answer 54

yes but people can get around that

Answer 55

Getting hacked is a very rare occasion on OS.

Answer 56

No no @poopsiedoodle it must be hackers! Since, you know, 90% of the site of made up of hackers.

Answer 57

ill hak u if u dnt shutp

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i've be block by a hacker

Answer 59

@kohai

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@poopsiedoodle , DDoS me pls ;-;

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do you know you have college student on this site don't you think that they know more and that they are going to get a degree

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Think what you want, dude.

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do you think they know how to hack without you knowing

Answer 64

your thoughts

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If they hack you without you knowing, then that means that they're not doing anything, so they might as well have not been doing it. Either way, that's entirely irrelevant to OS's glitchy code. My thoughts.

Answer 66

you in the year 2014 any one can hack a site so easy

Answer 67

there have been days were i need help but the orange war cuse a problem you been having the orange war since 2013

your thought's

Answer 68

you did not fix it then

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@e.mccormick i am not dumb if you don't care then this site would not exist with people trying to help

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it now to act on it or re grate it in the feature

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if i Owen this sit i be careful what people do on this site

any of your thoughts

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i been talking to students and they don't like it

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i like this site but i not going to watch you burn it to the ground

you thought's ............

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@amistre64 what do you think

Answer 75

The "links" that allowed hacks of user accounts by stealing a cookie where due to a bug in the \(\LaTeX\) code. That has been closed in two ways. Also, it was not the link to the other site that was the problem. It was allowing arbitrary code to e run with the authority of this site so it was able to copy a cookie and do a few other things. They changed the mode that JS runs in and rurned off the feature in the MathJax \(\LaTeX\) engine.

All of 3 or 4 people used this. There are 18,252,865 users on OpenStudy. I don't know how they calculate that number, so I do not know if it accounts for duplicates. But 4 out of 10,000,000+ is not anywhere near 90%.

When the Orange War happens the notifications service is crashing. It has done this for different reasons every time. Some have been for load. One was an accidental hack of the service that you can actually read about in posts on OS. One was a bad character construct that was improperly handled. One was never explained fully but was simply described as an odd set of circumstances caused by small issues in different parts of the code. So saying that the Orange War has not been fixed is incorrect. There are different Orange Wars with different causes.

Answer 76

@e.mccormick they do yourself a big favor and close openstudy once a mouth on Saturdays or you won't have this site working the right way

Answer 77

@Compassionate @e.mccormick @paki @Preetha then do yourself a big favor and close openstudy once a mouth on Saturdays or you won't have this site working the right way

Answer 78

As e.mc said earlier, that is entirely unrealistic. Plus, you don't have to take a website down to work on code.

Answer 79

no i mean you have to much data in this site if you don't like your going to burn this site down to the grown

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@e.mccormick @Compassionate @paki @poopsiedoodle

your going to have the orange war for ever it not going to go away if only you listen to me it your site if you want student to hate it do something about it or they are going to leave for ever..................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Answer 81

You would need to know more about the code team and how development is done to understand why closing one day a month on the weekend is never going to happen. Even closing one day in the middle of the week is not a practical solution. It is a cluster. They can actually break one machine out of the cluster to do testing if they need to. Or they can duplicate everything on a local machine and work on it. None of that needs turning off the production servers to happen.

I do agree that instability does lead to dissatisfaction. I just do not see your suggestion as remotely causing an improvement over having a team of people working 5 days a week on things.

Answer 82

If I were a hacker, and didn't quite have enough information about the site I was trying to hack, I might try a friendly conversation that sounds like it is intended to help, but really is intended for someone with sufficient information to divulge the information I was missing.

Answer 83

@tkhunny They call that social engineering.