Question

Why Ambassadors should not have powers...

(Closed other one on accident.)

Answer 1

Word Origin




noun


1.

a diplomatic official of the highest rank, sent by one sovereign or state to another as its resident representative (ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary)


2.

a diplomatic official of the highest rank sent by a government to represent it on a temporary mission, as for negotiating a treaty.


3.

a diplomatic official serving as permanent head of a country's mission to the United Nations or some other international organization.


4.

an authorized messenger or representative.
Abbreviation: Amb., amb.

Answer 2

Number's 2 and 4 would possibly describe an ambi. Ambi's are nothing to special. (if you ask me) The only thing that makes them stand out Is there (A). Other than that badge there just like you and me. There purpose is to welcome new users and make them feel like there wanted. There supposed to represent OS and try to show new users why OS is great. (I rarely see an ambi helping new users other than in feedback and that's usually when they post something off topic. The only ambi's that do there job about 80% of the time are @Compassionate @jigglypuff314 @sammixboo and the new ambi who came back @jamierox4ev3r

More regular user do an Ambi's job then an actual ambi. Giving them power would be pointless and even more hated by some users because there supposed to be just that, Regular users! There not getting powers and I doubt they will. Creating inequality between new and old users with ambi's is a bad idea.

Answer 3

I think a delete option would help us mediate content a little more. I'm against Ambassadors moderating content and issuing disciplinary actions. However, things like chat deletion, which is hard to legislate with reports on moderators behalf, should be handed down to Ambassadors since it takes more immediate action.

@jamierox4ev3r is not a new Ambassador. Hehe. She's old as bones.

Answer 4

*cough* *cough* 'who came back' *cough* *cough*

Answer 5

@Compassionate Deleting can be negotiated. Hehe, but it will most likely never happen. And if it were to happen, only a select few would be granted the privilege. And chat deletion is something Mod's should be in charge of. Little Cover ups are likely to happen, and it would probably not be check by a mod, because you all are trusted individuals, and they would rely on your judgment.

And like I said earlier, your breaking the bridge the ambi's create to connect the Regular users with the Moderators and Administrators. Giving power would just fit them into the Moderator category.

Answer 6

@Joel_the_boss There are other duties of ambassadors. (If you had access to the ambi manual like me ;) and read it) You would know that ambassadors do not only welcome new users. They have more tasks than that :P

Answer 7

And we all know that no ambassador has powers except for @Compassionate ;) ;) ;)

Answer 8

Yes. I agree. We shouldn't have powers. But just one thing I'm really aiming for. As what Compassionate has said above. Some moderators can't be there at times and it really has to be taken care of. Why not hand some of the "deletion option buttons" to the Ambassadors. That's all I want. Nothing else.

Answer 9

That's all I want. Nothing else.

Someone wants power. :P

And only a few should be allowed the powers maybe the ambi's that have a year on the team.

Answer 10

That's totally not power. That's not what I call as power. Power is like the president ruling over the state. That's power. In this situation I don't consider this as "power." Just you would know if you're an Ambassador. Do you know how much it really annoys and irritates Ambassadors when something can't be taken care of at the moment? Moderators can't always be there. So instead, Ambassadors can take care of it when they're on.

Answer 11

Lol

Answer 12

New ambi?!?! how DARE you? xDD lol but your point is valid. In my opinion, if ambis. work hard enough, we can eventually become mods. Then we'll have power >:) And then you can fear us. and @Compassionate , I'm not as old as bones .-. even though i happen to be made out of them

Answer 13

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @Joel_the_boss
The only ambi's that do there job about 80% of the time are @Compassionate @jigglypuff314 @sammixboo and the new ambi *** WHO CAME BACK *** @jamierox4ev3r
\(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

Answer 14

Well he did say 'new'..

Answer 15

Eh, whatever xD

Answer 16

truuue xD But if you think I'm new, YOU ARE WRONG >:(
jk i don't actually mind LOL

Answer 17

I know xD

Answer 18

Lot's of dead Ambi's, don't feel bad :P

Answer 19

but I came back...that's good, right? :D

Answer 20

Ofc! :D

Answer 21

Why did I even say comp. Wait on that old bones, he will be mod soon enough xD

\(\huge \color{purple}{Comp4Mod}\)

Answer 22

The day comp. becomes mod., I will actually run for my life
hahaha jkjk, comp. has really grown as a person as compared to before :)

Answer 23

Hey, wait until the 26th. ;) Wonder who's becoming mod *whistles*

Answer 24

WHALE DEN...
*walks away*
you seem a bit mean joel XD

Answer 25

not yo uwith that cocky attitude ::P
*wink*

Answer 26

Well, having moderator powers when the moderators aren't online would kind of mean that ambassadors are moderators...

Answer 27

Oooh. Delete. Gimme.

Nah. Deleting will be too much power.

Answer 28

Well @Joel_the_boss Ambis have no powers at all.

And the purpose of ambis are not to moderate but other stuff which are located in the ambi manual :P

Answer 29

@TheSmartOne Stop bringing it up, im gonna be annoyed if a new user ask what that is and then makes a post demanding a copy. -_-'

Answer 30

@TheSmartOne

If ambis have no power, why does Compassionate discuss with someone on a post bragging that he has mod powers and such ?

Answer 31

He was given mod powers because he was an intern or something before.

Answer 32

lol no comp doesn't have mod powers :P
he just pretends that he does
and mods do take action from his reports
which might by why it seems like it I suppose
but (like abb0t) compassionate does NOT have mod powers.

Answer 33

Let me expand.

Moderators have a strict policy when it comes to regulating content and enforcing the Code of Conduct. With addition to issuing and revoking memberships, moderators also have to deal with trolls and delete chat content. The Moderation staff has stressed several times the difficulty of chat moderating. It moves fast. It's hard to keep up with and legislate appropriately. It's a lot to read; and the majority of chat reports are blank. A lot is left to context.

Now, as Ambassadors it is our job to represent OpenStudy's morals, behavior, and be, well, an Ambassador to our visitors. However, being an Ambassador on OpenStudy is slightly different than being an Ambassador for your school or community. We also mediate content. We are the middle-man. It is our job to help keep peace in the community. Often, Ambassadors are more active and engaged in the community than moderators because of our positions. We are up-to-date and in context. So, if a user is being bullied or harassed, I feel Ambassadors should be able to help mediate the foul and innapropriate language by deleting replies so that new users are not bullied off OpenStudy. This, of course, would be followed by reporting the user.

You see, chats require more immediate attention, unlike private message abuse and threads. Chats are hard to legislate, as aforementioned, so allowing Ambassadors some leeway to help clean up foul language from the chat would be EXTREMELY beneficial to moderators. Even the Staff has stressed this before. Often, the innapropriate or harassing language doesn't need to be met with a suspension or warning. Sometimes simply deleting the content to clear clutter and spam and talking to the user is the best course of action.

As for earlier comments about us abusing our "delete" powers; that is nonsense. All deleted content is up for review by the moderators. All Ambassadors are sought after by their eagerness to help the community. Abusive Ambassadors will simply be dismissed.

One known advocate for additional tools for Ambassador chat mediation is @e.mccormick .

P.s., I'm not fixing my spelling errors; I'm at work.

Answer 34

There always a possibility of a sour apple. Just a possibility. @compassionate

Your ideas for chats are good but this all could be done by picking out the sour apples. Just being able to suspend the trolls and spammers from a chat(s) would clear up most problems. Also the need for a Chat Moderator has become a priority with the rate OS is expanding. But it would be an outrage amongst regular users if they were just handing out the ability to delete. Even with out the ability, you guys are framed by young users for there suspensions and other punishments, so imagine how OS over all would take it if 10-20 people were given this ability. If you are to receive it should be a privilege given to the Ambassadors who not only are responsible and respectful but also have a good sense of judgment. Alot of the ambassadors are one way and biased, no offence hehe.

You also pointed out that the chats move by to fast. Have you considered the fast more than on chat is open per subject? I think chats should correspond to its subject, /this way there would be less to worry about when you have one chat per user. This could be a possible solution.

Answer 35

I'm not thirsting for any power, really. If we don't, ok. If we do, ok.

I'm not encouraging this, because Ambassadors can lose their temper, but if we were to have any power whatsoever it would be deleting things such as comments, chats, and questions (as said above). I agree with us not having power, but I do agree with us having other features to improve our job. Like Ambassadors getting a notification when a new user comes on (if you want me to bring up that post I can).

Answer 36

Ambassadors are 13+ and we all know that someone can hit our nerve, so we could just be deleting their stuff just to get them back and all. This is why I think we shouldn't have powers

Anyways, I don't think we will be getting any powers soon, or ever.

Answer 37

They don't.

Answer 38

@ParthKohli lol I know they don't It's just in general, more like an extended reply to igreens post.

Answer 39

I don't have time to read all the replies, but I will add something anyway.

What has been discussed, and never happened, is the ability to delete chats. Why? Because chat gets abused by users a lot. Also, it is a low impact power. That way, it it is abused it has the least damage. And you can never tell if someone will abuse power until they have it. Then, depending on the level of abuse, you can retrain or remove a person as needed. This would make chat delete a great way to test the responsibility level of the ambassadors.

Now, the ambassador training is also very clear on the fact that an ambassador and a moderator are different. It focuses on the proper use of communication skills and greeting people.

Answer 40

@joel_the_boss

We don't want to suspend or warn users. Really. It's a reserved action. It doesn't always work. It's better to mediate and change a users behavior rather than smack him with pointless suspensions.

Answer 41

@Compassionate
for once I read your huge reply on a post...
and i have to say
i do agree 100% with what your saying...
however sammix has a point
however comps original statement makes sammix's point invalid
Now i have something to add on to this
Trusted Ambis... And New Ambis
Trusted ambis have EARNED the permision to do it... and are trusted to use them well.
New ambis... working to earn it... to prove they can be trusted
simple solution to all this argument

Answer 42

O_O 13..........paragraphs
:O _-_ .-.
same like @e.mccormick said "I don't have time to read all the replies"
:D :D \(\rm\color{green}{o^\wedge\_^\wedge o}\)

Answer 43

The primary purposes are described here:
http://blog.openstudy.com/2014/01/30/openstudys-diplomatic-corps/

Answer 44

We weren't chosen to have power over everyone else and to be a helping-hand for the mods, we were chosen to be role-models and bring a positive influence to the OS community, by welcoming new users and guiding whoever we can when they need it.


A "silence" button may be nice to sush a spammer for a few minutes, but anything above that may be a bit too much.

Answer 45

Sorry for not reading the comments, but I'd like to say a little something small.

The primary definition is "diplomatic officials of highest rank". At the end, they are diplomatic officials and all they can do concerns interpersonal relations. Therefore mod powers are of no use.

Although a few powers wouldn't hurt. ^_^

Answer 46

I don't see the debate around this though. Ambassadors have never wielded power and they never will.

Answer 47

^ Exactly

Answer 48

@ParthKohli This was an extended reply to @iGreen 's Question.