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OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
Given \[\tan(\theta)=-1/3\] and with θ in quadrant IV, find the exact value of sin(2θ).
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
draw a diagram and try to visualize
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
here to help if you try first!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
are you allowed to use a calculator?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
i don't think so!
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
hmmm....
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
sorry got back os didnt load :C
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
somehow i'm having a problem with OP as well, i can't see latex codes
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
question. So is -1/3 basically saying that 1 is the opposite and 3 is the adjacent?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yes! and they give you the quadrant too
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
so sin must be negative, yes?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
the first think you need to do is draw the triangle that represents this situation
then use the Pyathagoras theorem to find the missing side
then find sin theta and cos theta
that all will be used to find sin (2theta)
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
Pythagoras*
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
do some work, paper and pencil my dear, push yourself little more harder
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
do what i just mentioned!
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
Sorry i got kicked off again ._.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
|dw:1427241608564:dw|
reply and best response if you understood!!..:)
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
|dw:1427241749587:dw|
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
okay good
-1 not 1
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now look for the hyp
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
sidarth did it pretty much you just need to work it also yourself to see if you got it
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
Question, How would you find the hypotonuse if they don't give us a degree of an angle
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
you use the Pythagorean theorem my dear
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
Oh 1+9=10 would be what it would work out too
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
you have to square the 10
that's the hyp
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OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
yes was about to say 10=c^2
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
okay now you got the missing side
what is sin (theta)
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
c=3.16
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
no just leave it as root 10
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
oh why do we wanna not want to work it out does it mess up?
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
hmm good question
because we might cancel the root later in calculation if you did decimal things would be the way we might want them to be
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
would not be*
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
Alright:p so now the triangle looks like |dw:1427242548442:dw|
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yes
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
So in order to get sin sin(theta=-1/sqrt10?
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
we need sin (2 theta)
and we know that sin (2 theta)=2sin (theta)cos(theta)
so we need to get sin (theta) and cos theta and multiply them out
and multiply the result by 2
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
and yes sin theta =-1/root10
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
so wouldn't we have to get theta alone for both cos and sin.
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yes! see the relation between sin2theta with sintheta and cos theta
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
we have to do both and multiply them out
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
you can't get theta alone the other way you are used to! if that's what you are talking about
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
By arcsin I assume is what you are saying we can't do?
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
and besides there are asking us \[\sin 2\theta \] why bother with theta
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
yes we can't, in fact, why bother doing that
the question is not asking for theta
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
well I am confused, we have to find theta first then multiply it by 2?
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
\[\sin 2 \theta=2\sin \theta \cos \theta \]
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
no we are not gonna bother with theta at all
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
so wait i get it now
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
just find \[\cos \theta ~~and~~ \sin \theta \]
you already found sin theta
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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
no you don't get it!
OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):
Egh
OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):
why are you not paying attention to what i'm saying
\[\sin \theta = \frac{-1}{\sqrt{10}}\\ \cos \theta =\frac{3}{\sqrt{10}}\]
then \[\sin (2\theta )=2(\frac{-1}{\sqrt{10}})(\frac{3}{\sqrt{10}})\]