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OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Help with trig

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Given \[\tan(\theta)=-1/3\] and with θ in quadrant IV, find the exact value of sin(2θ).

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

draw a diagram and try to visualize

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

here to help if you try first!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you allowed to use a calculator?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

i don't think so!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm....

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

sorry got back os didnt load :C

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

somehow i'm having a problem with OP as well, i can't see latex codes

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

question. So is -1/3 basically saying that 1 is the opposite and 3 is the adjacent?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes! and they give you the quadrant too

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

so sin must be negative, yes?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

the first think you need to do is draw the triangle that represents this situation then use the Pyathagoras theorem to find the missing side then find sin theta and cos theta that all will be used to find sin (2theta)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

Pythagoras*

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

do some work, paper and pencil my dear, push yourself little more harder

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

do what i just mentioned!

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Sorry i got kicked off again ._.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

|dw:1427241608564:dw| reply and best response if you understood!!..:)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

|dw:1427241749587:dw|

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

okay good -1 not 1 ======= now look for the hyp

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

sidarth did it pretty much you just need to work it also yourself to see if you got it

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Question, How would you find the hypotonuse if they don't give us a degree of an angle

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

you use the Pythagorean theorem my dear

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Oh 1+9=10 would be what it would work out too

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

you have to square the 10 that's the hyp

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

yes was about to say 10=c^2

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

okay now you got the missing side what is sin (theta)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

c=3.16

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

no just leave it as root 10

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

oh why do we wanna not want to work it out does it mess up?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

hmm good question because we might cancel the root later in calculation if you did decimal things would be the way we might want them to be

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

would not be*

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Alright:p so now the triangle looks like |dw:1427242548442:dw|

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

So in order to get sin sin(theta=-1/sqrt10?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

we need sin (2 theta) and we know that sin (2 theta)=2sin (theta)cos(theta) so we need to get sin (theta) and cos theta and multiply them out and multiply the result by 2

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

and yes sin theta =-1/root10

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so wouldn't we have to get theta alone for both cos and sin.

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes! see the relation between sin2theta with sintheta and cos theta

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

we have to do both and multiply them out

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

you can't get theta alone the other way you are used to! if that's what you are talking about

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

By arcsin I assume is what you are saying we can't do?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

and besides there are asking us \[\sin 2\theta \] why bother with theta

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes we can't, in fact, why bother doing that the question is not asking for theta

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

well I am confused, we have to find theta first then multiply it by 2?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

\[\sin 2 \theta=2\sin \theta \cos \theta \]

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

no we are not gonna bother with theta at all

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so wait i get it now

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

just find \[\cos \theta ~~and~~ \sin \theta \] you already found sin theta

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

\[\sin(2x)=\sin(\frac{ -1 }{ \sqrt10 })\cos(\frac{ 3 }{sqrt10 })\]

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

no you don't get it!

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Egh

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

why are you not paying attention to what i'm saying \[\sin \theta = \frac{-1}{\sqrt{10}}\\ \cos \theta =\frac{3}{\sqrt{10}}\] then \[\sin (2\theta )=2(\frac{-1}{\sqrt{10}})(\frac{3}{\sqrt{10}})\]

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