Question

I would like to know if speaking in a different language in chat is against the rules....i know of 2 users who have received warnings for speaking in different languages in the chats. I would say its a bit racist if the rule did exist.

Answer 1

I got a warning too, and a reinstate (from a warning?) lol.

Answer 2

i did not get warned and i was speaking in hindi in the chats i see no problem with this but i would want to know if speaking different languages is ban able and warn able

Answer 3

Im not taking it in my own hands i just want to know...

Answer 4

The other post was about a specific warning...

Answer 5

http://prntscr.com/6vurt5 lel

Answer 6

I don't believe this is a rule, and the mod. who did this probably made a mistake. Still, you can address the problem with other moderators if you (or anyone else) feels like they've been mistreated. Moderators are chosen because they can be trusted and uphold security and safety in the OS community. Racism is definitely not safe!

Answer 7

This is not a mistake lol it happended twice now

Answer 8

if preetha has an issue with how her mods are working the site; then she will let them know.

personally, i know of no language restrictions.

Answer 9

Well i dont think preetha has heard about the language warnings yet...

Answer 10

shes bound to catch wind of it sooner or later :)

Answer 11

:)

Answer 12

I dont mean to be ranting about how moderation should work i just wanted to know if this was something that could get someone warned or banned :)

Answer 13

I will post what I posted in the chats right here.

It depends on how the mod was looking at the situation. (I am not choosing sides here, but I am stating my own opinions and thoughts, so please don't freak) there is many people in the chats that speak english - tons. People start speaking in a different language - even if they do or don't know that language, and other users get annoyed, because they can't understand what the user is trying to say . Like I said it all kinda depends on the situation. The users aren't trying to be racist, but it is annoying them ever so slightly, because they know the user speaking the other language can speak english frequently.

One of the situations of the few others. I feel that some people need to understand situations before they attack and make assumptions, because I KNOW this happens a ton. It's different if everyone in the chats is speaking the same language, or just one person constantly saying many things from that other language with no one else speaking it with that user. This suspension is TRUE OR FALSE depending on the situation.

Trying to make my statement clear :3

Answer 14

Right some people may feel left out but thats not a mods concern (atleast i dont think so) I dont think its a reason for a mod to warn someone people may look at it as a disgrace

Answer 15

http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/55339adde4b0222af8e10b67

Answer 16

They would do that because they wouldn't understand exactly everything happening round them and to other users

Answer 17

Which also happens frequently

Answer 18

Well if the mod does not know what that means they could ask a mod or ambi to translate for them

Answer 19

Like cussing, different forms of spam, offenses, etc

Answer 20

Make a post on yammer if anything :/

Answer 21

Very true, but it would take some time as well (depending on how much th person was speaking it in the chats)

Answer 22

i got a warning too :/

Answer 23

It would take time but im sure they will find someone who speaks the language

Answer 24

I would think of this as unfair :/ i dont see where in the CoC or TaC it says you cant speak your language or other languages

Answer 25

exactly an dwhat if that is the only language they can speak?

Answer 26

If I were a mod though, I woulda Private messaged the user asking them to just keep it English - for moderating reasons - unless if a group of people are speaking it as well. I wouldn't have warned, but we all know mods have different thoughts on things.

Answer 27

Im not hating against the mods i just feel bad for the people getting suspend and warned for this issue

Answer 28

fyi for anyone else. Currently the user in @helpblahblahblah 's account is @shifuyanli ...

Answer 29

Why so? ^

Answer 30

PM that ^^

Answer 31

Me want info too pm me

Answer 32

Anyways, I felt like a warning was a bit of an iffy choice to make, because users just don't know sometimes.

Answer 33

^ yep thats my point :)

Answer 34

yeah i got a warning to

Answer 35

Just from the last post the user was making it that mods were racists this and that about using different languages.

Nope.

Answer 36

@Preetha when you come online please clairfy this :)

@sammixboo people would think its racist

Answer 37

Just doing it for safety reasons. Let's hope mods see this post though so they know to PM instead of warn :)

Answer 38

i deem it as offensive not racist though....

Answer 39

Very true, Pooja, but like I said. People don't understand warnings and suspensions like other people and mods do.

Answer 40

Sometimes people*** whoopd

Answer 41

Well i dont think a warning is a big deal :P but people get scared by them

Answer 42

True true

Answer 43

But with these warnings people get suspensions directly after. Whoever gave me mine messed up and reinstated me from a warning. lel.

Answer 44

Well i hope whoever gave u it sees this ;)

Answer 45

if the mod thinks this is bad he gives a warning, a second warning then he suspend. i dont see anything bad in speaking other languages. it is the personal view of mod. just like thomaster deleted posts with congratulations these mods warn and suspended for using other languages

Answer 46

Thomaster only closes the post. He doesn't delete it. However with these warnings, you get a suspension right after that includes:

You're being suspended for blahblahing after being warned not to. Please use the time during your suspension to consider changing your behavior. You can review the Code of Conduct at http://openstudy.com/code-of-conduct for more information.

You don't even get to change your behavior after getting a warning...

Answer 47

there is nothing about this in coc or tac so this should not be a reason for warnings.

Answer 48

@Kainui What do you think about this? :P

Answer 49

I agree with you pooja !

mods have really been making some mistakes. I think they have forgotten that they are humans after all and their decisions are not always right.

But I don't want to criticize the mods here, the main thing is that language is a sensitive topic for a few people and if a group is talking in 1 language, then it is okay. Even if random words from different language is used by 1 person, it is okay, as long as no one is offended.

Answer 50

fan me so i can msg u back ;P

Answer 51

Lololol Pooja, is this because you got annoyed when we started speaking Korean in a chat that nobody knows about?

Answer 52

@♪Chibiterasu its annoying but whatever my point was warnings for speaking a different language is harsh people have received warnings the say: Let's keep it English shall we? I kinda feel bad because OS is a diverse place it has people from all over the world speaking a different language should not be a big concern.

Answer 53

What if they don't speak english. What if they speak spanish like, COMO ESTAS or ME GUSTA NACHOS!

Answer 54

LOL my point xD

Answer 55

lol yuuup

Answer 56

Google translate is not accurate other mods or ambi's can just translate i dont see a reason to warn people for this

Answer 57

I don't think it's against the rules in my opinion. Even though it is, trust me! I have seen many mods who have used other languages OTHER thank English. So if they do it, we can do it as well. I'm not saying follow them and leave tracks. That's how we all start up the fire here.

Answer 58

And I think it's pretty stupid if a moderator gives a warning to one of the users, who themselves use different language other than English.

Answer 59

No, I have not trolled my family. Why would I do that? Look, my point is, lets take for example e.mccormick, he used russian language in the English Chat below(He really didn't I'm just using this as an example) and then several days later, I use Russian Language as well same exact chat when he's there. And then, he gives me a warning. That's what I'm considering as stupid!

Answer 60

Exactly :)

Answer 61

There is no mistake on a warning for language variation in the chats. Here's the deal...

1) There is NO evidence that people participating in the chats will CONSISTENTLY follow the community standards. The chats are rampant with profanity, vulgarity, sexual content, role-playing death, mayhem, and destruction, suggestive dating and flirting behaviors and many, many other things directly in violation of the Code of Conduct. If one were to construe, one would have to construe that such behaviors will continue until evidence shows otherwise.

2) Abbreviations, euphemisms, misspellings, and many other techniques are utilized in order to get profanity and other inappropriate content in the chats. These techniques are designed to escape Language Filters so the participants can make their own rules, rather than follow the established rules. If one were to construe, one would have to construe that such behaviors will continue until evidence shows otherwise.

3) Language Filters are only in English.

4) If you are willing to provide funding for appropriate filters for other languages, and if you are willing to provide funding for resources who are able to moderate the chats in other languages, then I have no problem whatsoever with other languages in the chats.

5) Alternatively, if you can prove that people participating in the chats can and will voluntarily follow the established rules, then we need neither filters nor mods.

Answer 62

Mr.TK :) Well since you like to refer to the CoC i dont see anything in the CoC that states "You may not speak your language" Yes you have a point you never know what people say then again you can get a mod or ambi to translate

Answer 63

Os is a diverse place there are people from all over the world you can't control how they like to type :/

Answer 64

You didn't read what I wrote, did you?

Answer 65

yea but he can moderate it js

Answer 66

1) There is NO evidence that people participating in the chats will CONSISTENTLY follow the community standards. The chats are rampant with profanity, vulgarity, sexual content, role-playing death, mayhem, and destruction, suggestive dating and flirting behaviors and many, many other things directly in violation of the Code of Conduct. If one were to construe, one would have to construe that such behaviors will continue until evidence shows otherwise.

Answer 67

of course i did :)

Answer 68

i got suspended for upside down words friday by him they hads cuuswords in it

Answer 69

considering upsidedown text is not filtered it worked lol

Answer 70

I could say tum pagal ho (dont ban me -_- ) it has no bad meanings there are people who dont know english well enough

Answer 71

Well, then you did not understand it. Read it again.

You were NOT warned or suspended for upside down words. You were suspended or warned for the profanity contained therein.

Answer 72

i wouldnt push tk kidrah its not really that big a deal

Answer 73

lol tk i know that and i accepted it i honestly didnt even notice it till i went back when you where there then i tried to delete it but you got me first

Answer 74

@tkhunny i dont mean to argue im just saying giving warnings and suspensions for such little things is a bit harsh :/ (not judging u or anything) I mean there are other things that need more focus

Answer 75

Someone speaking a language should not be a big deal mods do this all the time they speak diffrent languages

Answer 76

OS is harsh watchu mean

Answer 77

And if this is the case why is there a spanish section?

Answer 78

Yes, it is a very diverse place. Please consider the Global Airline Industry, Pilots learn English as a global standard for international flight. Global standards make the industry no less diverse.

Warnings are not harsh. They are teaching tools. If you learn from them, there never will be suspensions except in the most obvious and extreme cases.

Answer 79

kidrah i dont theres grounds for suspension but they dont ever give second warnings soo.

Answer 80

Well my friend tso got warned then suspended right after the warning :/

Answer 81

well, what if you say a bad word in a different language and the other person knows what it means and they tell a mod, but the mod does not know what it means and the person that said the bad word could lie about.

Answer 82

it

Answer 83

I had a mod ask me what a certain thing meant (a mod could go to another mod or ambi)

Answer 84

lol they never gave me another warning after my first ive been suspended 6 or 7 times

Answer 85

Theres a spammer in math chat (theres one everyday) languages should not be an issue

Answer 86

what if the other mod or ambi didn't know what it meant

Answer 87

@DARTH... You are talking about the general chat population moderating itself. That does not happen. It would be great if it did. If it did, there would be no discussion, here. It doesn't.

Answer 88

@DARTHVADER2900 Theres always a person that can translate it if not then theres google :P

Answer 89

@tkhunny so I do have a question. I don't not want to argue I just want a straight up answer. Using as what I've said above, if mods use different language other than English then that's like we can speak other languages we want to. If we get suspended and the moderator doesn't than that's an issue. Would there be any way to remove that suspension record off of our account?

Answer 90

What's going on here? XD

Answer 91

lol people ive never seen mad before getting mad at this rainbow

Answer 92

Noone is mad just a little concerned

Answer 93

Im sick and tired of tso complaining saying i got wanred for speaking diffrent languages and i would like to know what he got those warnings i have been on OS for 2 years i speak hinidi 24/7 in math chat yet i get no warning

Answer 94

I would like one of those friendly reminders too ya know ;)

Answer 95

ahhh well chats are less watched hav you seen them lately

Answer 96

sometimes people report for laughs soo maybe ..

Answer 97

hum chat par nai jate hai