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OpenStudy (babynini):

Trig question.

OpenStudy (babynini):

OpenStudy (babynini):

OpenStudy (babynini):

So I already got the graph part correct. I just can't find the correct answers for the other two sections. (the correct graph is the left one)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

k which part are we having trouble with? 0_o the intersections?

OpenStudy (babynini):

Yeah the intersections.

OpenStudy (babynini):

@zepdrix :)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Err no maybe I'm counting wrong haha :)

OpenStudy (babynini):

ai, I can't get it haha

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I thought it was up at 1, but it's clearly not 0_o woops.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I dunno, that's a weird question :o isn't it just 0.5, 0.5 ... ish?

OpenStudy (babynini):

for the first box?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

ya

OpenStudy (babynini):

err well I put 0.5, 0.58 because the (sqroot3/3) = 0.577

OpenStudy (babynini):

haha dude idk what they want D:

zepdrix (zepdrix):

I dont understand.. this is so confusing.. are these two pages related to one another? 0_o

OpenStudy (babynini):

haha yeah xD the second picture goes first though

zepdrix (zepdrix):

They intersect at \(\Large\rm f(x)=g(x)\) or at \(\large\rm \tan x=\frac{\sqrt3}{3}\), ya?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Which angle does this correspond to? :D

OpenStudy (babynini):

pi/6

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Good! :) So they intersect at x=pi/6, y=sqrt(3)/3.

OpenStudy (babynini):

wait, whaat, how did you do that? :P first box still , yeah?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

f(x) = tan x. g(x) = sqrt(3)/3. We found the y coordinate of the intersection by setting these equal to one another. f(x) = g(x) = sqrt(3)/3 So clearly our y-coordinate is sqrt(3)/3. We did some fancy math to show that the angle, x, has to be pi/6 at this intersection.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

ya first one :O

OpenStudy (babynini):

ook, so it would be (0.52,0.58) ??

zepdrix (zepdrix):

ya that looks better i think :)

OpenStudy (babynini):

xD ok, hopefully that is correct :) on to box 2!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Algebraically, umm that's pretty much what we did. We found that \(\Large\rm x=\frac{\pi}{6}\) in the small interval that they gave us. Now for the second box, they've changed the interval to be from 0 to 2pi.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

so ummm

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Tangent is periodic in pi, so we'll get the same sqrt(3)/3 if we simply add pi to our angle x.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So \(\Large\rm x=\frac{\pi}{6}+\pi\) is also a solution in the interval 0 to 2pi.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So our x coordinate can be \(\Large\rm x=\frac{\pi}{6}+0\pi\) or \(\Large\rm x=\frac{\pi}{6}+1\pi\) ya?

OpenStudy (babynini):

ok. Those are the only two between 0 and 2pi?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yes, our next one would be located at \(\Large\rm x=\frac{\pi}{6}+2\pi\) but that's clearly too large now.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

But if they want the stupid k.. I guess we have to write it as,\[\Large\rm \left(\frac{\pi}{6}+k \pi,\qquad \right)\]Something like that, ya? And we just have to remember that k=0 and k=1 are the only solutions in the interval 0 to 2pi.. because it doesn't look like they gave us a place to put that 0_o

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Anddd the y-coordinate? :)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Do you understand how part (a) and part (b) relate to one another? They're the same `values`, but (a) wanted them approximated. So what should go in your y-coordinate slot this time? :) Think back to part (a)

OpenStudy (babynini):

Er, still processing xD it was sqroot3/3

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Good, that would be the `exact value`. Which is what they want in part (b).

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm \left(\frac{\pi}{6}+k \pi,~\frac{\sqrt3}{3} \right)\]Something like that for part (b), ya? :o

OpenStudy (freckles):

part a is weird to me... they want you to approximate the answer graphically. it is weird they require you to be accurate to two decimal places using that graph (it is very unzoomed in like)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

^ lol ikr

OpenStudy (babynini):

Zepdrix, I guess? I'll try putting that in :) @freckles I know! and there's a video thing that helps to solve it and it says "you can tell the two decimals by zooming in" but there's no zoom thing -.- what is this. haha

zepdrix (zepdrix):

haha XD

zepdrix (zepdrix):

they probably intend for you to use your own graphing calculator or something :)

OpenStudy (babynini):

ai, so part a is correct but part b they don't like D:

zepdrix (zepdrix):

hmm

OpenStudy (babynini):

I think I have like 2 tries left 0_0

zepdrix (zepdrix):

They want it in the form `x+pi k` not the form `x+k pi`. Could it be that simple maybe?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

woops +_+ your account, we can't get in hehe

OpenStudy (babynini):

aw shoot haha

OpenStudy (babynini):

Well, never mind xD

OpenStudy (babynini):

plan b. the first picture is their part a the second pic is their part b

OpenStudy (freckles):

well it says it wants it in the form (x+pi*k, sqrt(3)/3) where x is between 0 and 2pi there are two solutions to tan(x)=sqrt(3)/3 on [0,2pi) x=pi/6 or x=7pi/6 so it should be (pi/6+pi*k,sqrt(3)/3) or (7pi/6+pi*k,sqrt(3)/3) though this answer is totally repetitive (pi/6+pi*k,sqrt(3)/3) should be all that is needed but the way they say things makes me think they are looking for this (pi/6+pi*k,sqrt(3)/3) or (7pi/6+pi*k,sqrt(3)/3) before you enter in anything @Babynini I would like to know if @zepdrix has any esp skills or better thoughts

OpenStudy (babynini):

ooh, you mean they might want both those answers for part b?

OpenStudy (freckles):

well it is stupid but yes like they wanted the x-coordinate in the form x+pi*k where x is between 0 and 2pi and there are two x's in between 0 and 2pi such that tan(x)=sqrt(3)/3 i say it is stupid because all the values in pi/6+pi*k are also in 7pi/6+pi*k for example, if we have pi/6+pi*k where k=1 we have pi/6+pi=7pi/6 which is included in 7pi/6+pi*k for when k is 0

OpenStudy (freckles):

you know what maybe they are just being weird about the wording and they just want (pi/6,sqrt(3)/3) or (7pi/6,sqrt(3)/3)

OpenStudy (freckles):

but I guess that one thing you posted is an example of what they want right?

OpenStudy (babynini):

Right, which is why I am confused haha because they're asking me to put it in all weird

OpenStudy (freckles):

and if it really is example then this should have been correct: \[(\frac{\pi}{6}+\pi \cdot k, \frac{\sqrt{3}}{3})\]

OpenStudy (babynini):

hmmm maybe they want parenthesis in there somewhere ?? perhaps it is being picky -.-

OpenStudy (freckles):

can you show a picture of exactly what you entered

zepdrix (zepdrix):

oh my bad 0_o i ran off to get some foods.

OpenStudy (freckles):

and any messages they gave to correspond to the error you made when entering it

OpenStudy (babynini):

LOL zepdrix xD

OpenStudy (babynini):

K, I just put in (pi/6+k(pi), sqrt3/3) notice, there is a () around the pi. and hallelujah it's correct now xP

OpenStudy (babynini):

Also, around the answer box there is a parenthesis that the program put there and I was putting a parenthesis around the whole thing and it didn't like that ._.

OpenStudy (babynini):

@Nnesha can you give freckles a medal please? :)

OpenStudy (freckles):

I don't need a medal. My cat pays me by the minute to help people in math because it struggles with math and it just wants other people to succeed in math where it cannot.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

OH yah the first time you probably did something silly like this kpi you need to input something to show that isn't one long word, like k*pi brackets worked? yay

OpenStudy (babynini):

^^ xD your cat is the bomb. Yep, just some parenthesis

OpenStudy (freckles):

the weird thing is these programs want you to have esp or whatever it said it wanted the x-coordinate in the form x+pik they didn't put a ( ) around the pi it is all craziness to me

OpenStudy (babynini):

The programmers are old and lonely. They want to make our lives miserable. It's a conspiracy!

OpenStudy (babynini):

Wow, this question is the hang out spot. there's 7 people here :P

OpenStudy (freckles):

they are all waiting on more trig people eat trig right on up like pie (not to be confused with the number pi of course)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

yayyy mother's day \c:/ ooo crap, i gotta get mom something :o

OpenStudy (babynini):

oh yes, happy mothers day!! Nicely done freckles, nicely done.

OpenStudy (babynini):

dude, get on that! I already got my mum something B) #aheadofthegame

OpenStudy (babynini):

here mum, have my homework!!

OpenStudy (babynini):

Ok yall, ready for question next?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

XD

OpenStudy (babynini):

aaaand...closing this. Yall have been amazing :) don't forget your mums!

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