Which of the following represents the zeros of f(x) = 4x3 − 13x2 − 37x + 10? what i think x = 5 x = -2 x = 1/4 @plasmafuzer
these are the other answers and stuff
i just need reassurance like is it the right one or not
Yea your answers are good
When you finish come back to this post since it isn't as cluttered... and we will work back through the last problem.
perfect!! thanks, i will
Awesome, also may I have a medal plz :D
For reference: (x-4)(x+5)(x-7)
well deserved C:
Cheers :D
I got 100
CONGRATS!!!
Do you still want to help me with the other one? Or would you like to do it later, sorry i feel like I'm taking up your time
Ok now comes the real taskmaster me hehehe
Nope your not getting out of it that easily... Im alright Im relaxing with a keyboard on a nice Saturday
:p
perfect, okay so explain this to me please! How did you get the answer
Ok so given (x-4)x distribute this for me plz
Ill walk you through one piece at a time and once we finish I will post a totally start to finish polished solution ok?
But YOU will do the work each step I will just make sure you do it right.
So please: (x-4)x = ?
I sense uneasiness whats up?
Please tell me whenever you are confused.
okay sorry my page froze and i was trying to refresh (mess) (x-4)x x*4-x*x
correct?
Umm yes... except you somehow swtiched the minus sign.
Try it again please.
a(b – c) = a × b – a × c I'm going by this, ok lets try it again? (x-4)x x*x-4*x
There we go brilliant :D
yay!
And is there another way we can write x*x?
x^2?
BRILLIANT!!!!
Ok so in other words (x-4)x=x^2-4x yes? what about: (x-4)5
Note the multiplication is implied in a statement written like this
(x-4)5 x*5-4*5 (4 has to automatically go next to the minus sign because its actually -4 thats why id messed up earlier right, i didn't catch that)
YES EXACTLEY :D... Now simplfy it completely
i.e. get rid of the * signs
ok, 4*5=20 but what would i do with x*5?
what does x*5 mean write it out in words
some number multiplied by five
is that the same as 5 times some number?
basically yeah
basically nothing that is an important point... you may not recall but way back when you were young your learnd multiplication is communicative... that means for ALL... let me say this again FOR ALL real (and later on complex) numbers a*b=b*a
yes thats rights, doesn't matter how you put it its still the same thing
so saying x*5=5*x is a fundamental point about basic arithmetic its called a field axiom... without it math wouldnt work... think about that
like 5*x= x*5
EXACTLEY :D :D
yeah exactly
(:
but how would i simplify this to get rid of the * and finish the equation?
Ok so it happens to be the convention in algebra that when you have a number times a variable (some number x) you put the number first... and you can just drop the multiplication sign.... it is implied
Bingo
5x
So what is (x-4)5=
is that it? 5x-20
Boooomm like you have been doing it for years :D
Ok lets put it together now... (x-4)(x+5)
really????!! that was it? i was expecting something super difficult (':
Everyone always does when it comes to math... it comes down to some fundamental uncertainties they have about some basic maths
Ill tell you my story when we finish
(x-4)5 x*5-4*5 x*5= 5x 4*5=20 5x-20
Ok what about (x-4)(x+5)???
Note you have basically solved it already... just in two parts...work it out step by step please and post each step as you go
Dont be afraid... take the leap
what if it was a(x+5) what would the answer be?
a(x+5)=?
@emilybbydoll Did I lose you?
sorry i was v hungry i had to go get a snack
im lost on how to (x-4)(x+5) i could the other one v good but idk about this
@plasmafuzer
Ok what about: a(x+5)
distribute
Dont overthink... just do what you know you need to
a(x+5)
a(x+5) x*a+5*a
Bingo... and since a is an unknown do we need the *'s?
yes
we didnt with the x's earlier... and it is just an unknown
so what do you think now?
does it matter what I call something?
but how would i go about it? what do i distribute first? thats what I'm confused about
relax dont overthink.... all we have is a(x+5) right now so lets deal with that
you correctly distributed it but the question was about the *'s
does it matter what i name a variable?
x(a)+5a ? oh nvm i was talking about (x-4)(x+5)
we arent there yet... ok now you have parentheses... did we need them when we had x(x)?
you could've used it but i guess its preferable to use x^2
Good point... we didn't write it that was because x^2 is the BETTER way, but what about 5(x)?
at the end of the day x just stands in for some number and you were perfectly comfortable writing 5x yes?
yes
so if a is just standing in for something why not just ax?
yes... no?
it doesn't sound right?
Ok ok :) tell me why.. I just told you why it does sound right tell me why it doesnt.
Forget what I may or may not know.... If x is a variable that stands in for something then I can write 5x no problem you agree... but why cant I write ax is a just stands in for something... what if it was 5.. a=5 i mean
im guessing its informal, it just sounds like your writing something tbh
No not at all this is totally formal and totally allowed... my freely defining things the way that I am (as you know dont already know) is due to my ability freeing me up to be creative with the "language" that is math.
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