Question

One of the friends may help me to translate this! Its Arabic :)

مجذور اذا زد نا علیه عشره کان للمجتمع جذر او نقصانها منه کان للباقی جذر

Answer 1

I think it means to find a number \(x\) such that\[\sqrt{x^2+10}=a\]\[\sqrt{x^2-10}=b\]

Answer 2

google translate thinks it is persian :

`Inasmuch square root Llmjtm he was ill against Shrh Kahn Kahn my deficiencies square Llbaqy`

Answer 3

see what it gave me from Arabic to English:

If we increase the roots of it it was ten in the community root or incompleteness of it was for the rest of the root

I have no Idea :)))))

Answer 4

@ikram002p

Answer 5

@Nnesha

Answer 6

No, its Arabic, I know because I speak Persian and I've studies Arabic.

Answer 7

*studied

Answer 8

well, LYRA_Z where are you from? I'm from Iran by the way

Answer 9

Me too!

Answer 10

So what is your question exactly?

Answer 11

(I don't live in Iran though bth)

Answer 12

well this is interesting, This is one of the seven problems of Sheykh Bahayee, from his book "Kholasat-ol-Hesab" and I don't what exactly wants in this question

Answer 13

don't know*

Answer 14

He has said in the introduction of problems that these problems are unsolved until now, but now everybody with some high school information about math can solve them :)

Answer 15

I can upload the questions for you, If you are interested :)

Answer 16

Yes, that would be nice!

Answer 17

I can speak arabic but can't solve this problem , sorry

Answer 18

I don't want you to solve it, just translate the problem :)

Answer 19

Interesting...I'll try to solve them on my free time! Let me see what I can do to translate it...although it seems an Arabic speaker has come to help!

Answer 20

@mukushla Good Q in pdf i try to first understand it then try to solve.

Answer 21

I am native- arabic speaker but can't help in math I am still in 9th grade, I am 11

Answer 22

@MD152727 But can you translate it?

Answer 23

Yes

Answer 24

Well that's what @mukushla wants, just a translation!

Answer 25

Oh Ok! Easy!

Answer 26

Woah wait a minute the pdf you sent has Farsi!

Answer 27

What is Farsi?

Answer 28

@LYRA_Z I think the translation in the PDF is wrong

Answer 29

Farsi is a Persian Language.

Answer 30

@mukushla oh....are you sure?

Answer 31

ok, Never heard of it

Answer 32

yeah, I'm sure, because the question is trivial in that way

Answer 33

مجذور اذا زد نا علیه عشره کان للمجتمع جذر او نقصانها منه کان للباقی جذر : In English: A root if added by 10 will equal root or subtracted from it which will equal roots

Answer 34

oh...

Answer 35

Man! I can't understand this math

Answer 36

Thanks anyway @MD152727 :)

Answer 37

Your welcome

Answer 38

Is that all?

Answer 39

No, I'm still stuck :)))

Answer 40

On the problem or the translation or both?

Answer 41

Now somebody put it in mathematical words XD

Answer 42

Not sure how to help with that...XD What exactly do you mean by "mathematical words"?

Answer 43

well set up equations for the problem I mean :)

Answer 44

setting up the*

Answer 45

hmmm....don't think I can be much help...

Answer 46

No problem :)

Answer 47

Good luck!

Answer 48

its weird as "مجذور" is Persian, syntax in Arabic mean no since ...
where did u got it from?

Answer 49

I have uploaded a PDF ikram, Its in there :)

Answer 50

oh!

Answer 51

are you sure the origin writes of the problems i Arabic ?

seems like broken Arabic *It's annoying* :O

Answer 52

ok... i'll just translated word by word mixing Persian with Arabic lol xD

Answer 53

I don't know exactly, did you look at PDF? thanks ikram

Answer 54

it says a square if we added 10 to it then the whole root and it's sum to 10 can be a root to an integer (this means as u said solve for integer \(\sqrt{x^2+10}\) )
but if it was incomplete square ( mathematically means \(x^2-10\)) then it would be root for an integer.(same : solve for integer \(\sqrt{x^2-10}\) )

Answer 55

can you read Persian/ Arabic ? so i would note were you would misunderstood the question ?

Answer 56

do you mean translate what has written in persian in the PDF?

Answer 57

مجذور = can hold both root and square meanings (In its syntax) but been used as Square in mathematics in ancient time .

للمجتمع=It means community so it sound like the writer in not Arabian native as its build wrong if he/she mean "summation or whole square " ...


the rest would make sense...

Answer 58

thanks for your complete answer ikram :) I got it :)

Answer 59

here is the origin book in Arabic...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikisource/ar/f/f2/%D8%AE%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B5%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8_%D8%AE.pdf

Answer 60

np =)

Answer 61

Two of the seven problems are interesting actually, rest are not good ;)

One is the following system\[x^2+x+2=a^2 \\ x^2-x-2=b^2\]for real \(x\) and integers \(a\) and \(b\) and the second the system\[x^2+y^2+z^2=a^2 \\ \frac{x^2}{y^2}=\frac{y^2}{z^2}=\frac{z^2}{x^2}\]

Answer 62

quadratic diophantine equations.. i would like to se how its solved by that ancient method =)

Answer 63

:)

Answer 64

Please go to translate.google.com and use that tool to translate this Arabic.

Answer 65

yes?

Answer 66

No hablo arabic :(

Answer 67

@mathmale Sorry but actually this question should be in mathematics, because my main problem was to put it in mathematical phrases!

Answer 68

Anyway, thanks for closing the question, It was solved!

Answer 69

2nd and 3rd comment on this post) he already mentioned about google translate...
he used that and didn't understand the question i guess.
and google translate doesn't really give accurate translation all the time.