can someone show me how both series are diverges
\[\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{ \sqrt{2} }{ Ln^{10}k }\]
\[\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} k ^{1/k}\]
Did you copy this correctly $$\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{ \sqrt{2} }{ \ln^{10}(k) }$$I'm a little unsure about the exponent 10
$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} k ^{1/k}$$This series diverges. I just checked.
yea i just dont get why how to solve it
I'm confused about how this one looks. $$\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{ \sqrt{2} }{ Ln^{10}k }$$ can you draw it or take a screenshot.
sorry its \[\sqrt{k}\] at the top
Oh. Is there an Ln on the bottom?
yes
Ln^10 (k)
Is this it $$\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{ \sqrt{k} }{ \ln^{10}k }$$
Let's go over this one. This one is pretty straightforward: $$ \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} k ^{1/k}$$ it diverges because of the divergence test.
Divergence Test for series: If \( \lim_{k \to \infty} a_k \neq 0 \), then \( \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} a_k\) diverges.
The divergence test says, if the terms of the series don't go to zero there's no chance that the sum of the series can converge.
Clearly if you have a sequence with terms 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, ... and then are asked to add these, 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + ... the sum diverges. The terms of a series must approach zero if there is any chance for the sum of the terms to converge. Of course that is not enough to get convergence. The terms could go to zero and yet the sum diverges. Example : {1/n} starting from n =1 1, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5, ... the terms are going to zero but 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + ... = \( \infty \) $$ \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac 1 n = \infty $$ But it could converge as well. Example : {1/n^2} starting from n =1 1/1^2, 1/2^2, 1/3^2, 1/4^2, 1/5^2, ... or 1/1 , 1/4, 1/9, 1/16, 1/25 the terms are going to zero and 1/1 + 1/4 + 1/9 + 1/16 + 1/25 + ... = \( \frac{\pi ^2}{6} \) or to put it in symbols $$ \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac 1 {n^2} = \frac{\pi ^2}{6} $$
Is that clear?
thank you i get it now
\[n^{1/n}->1 \]
as n tends to infinity
So for your problem. $$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} k ^{1/k}$$ all we have to show is that the sequence \( \{ k^{1/k}\} : 1^{1/1} ,~ 2^{1/2}~, 3^{1/3} , ~ 4^{1/4}, ... \) the terms do not approach zero. i.e. we have to show the limit of \( \{ k^{1/k}\} \) as \(k \to \infty \) is non zero.
@jango_IN_DTOWN thats correct. can you show that?
yeah
$$ \large \lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} k^{1/k} = \lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} e^{ \ln ( k^{1/k}) } = \lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} e^{\frac{1}{k} \ln k} = e^{\lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} \frac{1}{k} \ln k}$$ Now use L'hopitals rule
here i used the fact that $$ \large A = e^{ \ln A } $$
$$\Large \lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} k^{1/k} \\ \Large =\lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} e^{ \ln ( k^{1/k}) } \\ \Large = \lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} e^{\frac{1}{k} \ln k} \\ \Large = e^{\lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} \frac{ \ln k } {k} } \\ L.H. \Rightarrow \Large e^{\lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} \frac{ \frac 1 k } {1} } \\ \Large = e^{\lim_{k \rightarrow \infty} \frac{ 1 } {k} } \\ \Large = e^{ \frac{ 1 } { \infty } } \Large = e^{ 0 } = 1 $$
$$\large \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{ \sqrt{k} }{ \ln^{10}k }$$which i interpret to mean $$ \large \sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{ \sqrt{k} }{ \ln (k)^{10} }$$
@ jango_IN_DTOWN in your proof why did you add an extra 1 $$ \large \sqrt{ \frac{2}{n-1} } < \epsilon \iff n > 1 + \frac{2}{\epsilon^2 } \color{red}{+ 1} $$ http://prntscr.com/cqwlv8
I suppose you can add 1 to get strict inequality. it's a remarkable proof $$\large n > 1 + \frac{2}{\epsilon^2 } \color{red}{+ 1} \\ \, \\ \large \implies \\ \, \\ \large \sqrt{ \frac{2}{n-1} } = \sqrt{\frac{ 2 }{ 1 + \frac{2}{\epsilon^2 } \color{red}{+ 1} -1 } } < \sqrt{\frac{ 2 }{ 1 + \frac{2}{\epsilon^2 } } } < \sqrt{\frac{ 2 }{ \frac{2}{\epsilon^2 } } } < \epsilon $$
@jango_IN_DTOWN do you agree? or was there another reason
since n has to be an integer, you dont want fractional issues
oh... the term inside the [.] is not necessarily an integer, so i took the greatest integer function...now suppose we got n=5.2 then for n=5, the inequality will not be satisfied. hence we need to add that 1. since if for n=5.2 the inequality is satisfied, it will be satisfied for n=6,7,.... but not 5
Nice. I think i can make a proof along the same lines. Let $$\large \rm h_n = ( n^{1/n} - 1 ) $$. We have $$\rm \large n = ( 1 + h_n ) ^n \\ \large = 1 + nh_n + n(n-1) \frac{(h_n)^2}{2!} ... + (h_n)^n > 1 + nh_n $$ From which it follows $$ \rm \large n > 1 + nh_n \\ \large \implies h_n < \frac{n-1}{n} \\ \large \implies h_n < 1 - \frac 1 n $$ Then $$ \large \rm | h_n - 0 |= h_n < 1 - \frac 1 n < \epsilon~ \text{ if } n \ge N = \frac{1}{1- \epsilon } + 1 $$
right. I don't see any error, except the fact, the denominator is acceptable or not.
we can assume that epsilon is less than 1, to avoid division by zero
thats right. what about the other problem...@zaxoanl can you kindly provide a picture of the first problem?
I believe there's a problem with my proof. I tried to go back and plug it in but the inequalities don't work. I can make a small adjustment
@zaxoanl Can you draw the other series using the draw tool?
I texted him to provide a picture.. For the second problem we got two solutions, first your method, then the method I provided. Now lets focus on the first problem.
@zaxoanl Does the first series really start at \(k=0\)?
I'll go ahead and assume the contrary, that the series begins for a more appropriate starting index: \[\sum_{k=2}^\infty\frac{\sqrt k}{\ln^{10}k}=\sum_{k=2}^\infty\frac{\sqrt k}{(\ln k)^{10}}\]Consider the substitution \(n=\ln k\), so the series is equivalent to \[\sum_{n\in L}\frac{e^{n/2}}{n^{10}}\]where \(L=\left\{\ln k~:~k\in\mathbb N\setminus\{1\}\right\}\). The limit test for divergence will show you that the series diverges, as \[\begin{align*} \frac{e^{n/2}}{n^{10}}&=\frac{1+\dfrac{n}{2^11!}+\dfrac{n^2}{2^22!}+\cdots+\dfrac{n^{10}}{2^{10}10!}+\dfrac{n^{11}}{2^{11}11!}+\cdots}{n^{10}}\\[1ex] &=\frac{1}{n^{10}}+\frac{1}{2^11!n^9}+\frac{1}{2^22!n^8}+\cdots+\frac{1}{2^{10}10!}+\frac{n}{2^{11}11!}+\cdots\\[1ex] &\to\infty \end{align*}\]
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