Question

Coronavirus Update: Someone asked me the following question earlier:

So you think that hardly any people are dying from this coronavirus? It’s all a hoax then? Here's my response:

Answer 1

Here are some of the reasons I think the COVID-19 pandemic is a hoax. According to information I’ve gathered from sources, most of the people vulnerable to die from the coronavirus are the elderly. Now, just recently they announced that two people in NY died of the coronavirus they were both elderly with pre-existing conditions. One of which was over the age of eighty and already had advanced emphysema which means he or she was already sick and was going to die anyway of advanced emphysema. Now for some reason, if you’re sick and already dying of some other lung disease, somehow, you qualify for the coronavirus test. Yeah emphysema is a lung disease which means their lungs were already compromised. Now imagine this, someone with that kind of condition who is already in the hospital, sick and dying of a lung disease doctors already know the patient has and is suffering from and is already in the hospital receiving treatment for advanced emphysema, for some reason, they need a coronavirus test. Forget the advanced emphysema. Now most likely, because their body is in such a sickly state and weakened condition, they are most likely going to test positive.. But when they die, officials announce that the patient died of coronavirus and not advanced emphysema. This is what I mean by the coronavirus is a hoax. If such a patient dies, their pre-existing condition is completely rendered irrelevant and only that they tested positive for coronavirus matters now. IMHO, the patient died of advanced emphysema not coronavirus. Newsflash: Elderly people die everyday, but now when they die, the officials will just say they died of the coronavirus. SMH. As for the other people who test positive for the coronavirus but do not die, it is of my perspective that these people have some variation of the flu. The reason I say this is because coronavirus is not something new. It has existed before, years ago, but back then they did not test the entire world for this disease. Had they done so, the numbers would probably be the same as they are now, but mass infections and deaths were not being reported. If that’s the case that coronavirus has already existed for years, why, is it all of a sudden a pandemic now? It’s because for some reason, they decided to start testing everyone for the coronavirus now. Some people probably had symptoms of the coronavirus for years and would have failed it years ago. I don’t think it is something that all of a sudden has became a pandemic now. No, there is something else going on, another secret agenda that is being pushed. Perhaps that the dollar is going to collapse on March 30th or something and they’re trying to blame it on the coronavirus. IDK. The corona is a real virus, but the pandemic is the hoax. Everything that has been happening (closings and cancellations of mass-crowd events) are fear-based responses.

Answer 2

You're right, there's definitely something questionable about this virus :thonk:

-There have been hundreds of more deadly viruses than these in recent years, like ebola and the zika. And one could say that they didn't spread that fast, but does anyone remember the H1N1 (swine flu)? That one was way worse and much deadlier than this, and it was declared a pandemic when 1.6B people were infected. I don't remember because I was young, but I do think that the panic was much different as compared to now.

-You might want to check this thing out:
https://v1019.com/2020/03/10/did-author-dean-koontz-predict-coronavirus-in-80s-suspense-thriller/
The moment this news started spreading, the mass media got right to debunking this conspiracy. But it's worth considering.

Answer 3

That novel is classified as "Fiction". So COVID-19 is like a fiction novel being made to look like a real-life scenario. I'd rather describe it as a real life drill.

Answer 4

In the military they create similar scenarios. They will intentionally set fire to three different spaces then announce that a fire has occurred on the ship. Everyone on the ship has to man their battle stations as if it were not a drill and the fire department has to don their fire-fighting gear, grab the fire-fighting equipment (water hoses and fire extinguishers, etc) then put the fire out. Now this is classified as a fire drill, but they did start a real fire. Some of the people on the ship thought it was a real life event. Some knew it was a drill. The ship was divided not knowing whether real or fake. That same level of confusion is being played out with this so-called coronavirus pandemic.

Answer 5

Oh and btw, these scenarios occur on Navy ships. Forgot to mention that.

Answer 6

Ok so im going to give you a link and yes it is bible-based but these are true facts and they are going to help us. This comes from the organization that I listen to. Please, even if you don't like religion, please read what they have to say about the coronavirus and how to stay healthy. They are very true ways to keep from encountering the virus. You can bash me all you want about posting this, but if you listen to these precautions, it will save your life. And if you have any questions about what religion I am, or what the website is I would be happy to answer them.

https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/jw-coronavirus-update-and-response/

Answer 7

There are projections that the economic cost of COVID-19 will reach $2.7 trillion (Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-coronavirus-pandemic-global-economic-risk/).

It is already affecting the economies of China, Italy, and other countries directly, as well as many other countries indirectly. I don't think countries would entertain COVID-19 as a hoax if it would do this.

As for why COVID-19 is a problem now, I'd recommend watching this video:
Why new diseases keep appearing in China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54&t=0s

Answer 8

Funny how you suggest countries would not consider it a hoax when one Chinese official is already blaming the US, specifically Bill Gates for specifically being the person responsible for engineering this coronavirus: (He is mentioned towards the end of the video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZftihVyq9E

Keep in mind, I'm suggesting that the pandemic is a hoax, not the coronavirus itself.

Answer 9

why would Bill Gates be involved in this?

Answer 10

Bill Gates connection to vaccations and mass depopulation is nothing new.
Google: bill gates mass depopulation

Answer 11

ok.

Answer 12

View it in images

Answer 13

k

Answer 14

"This thing clearly jumped from an animal species."

Is the Coronavirus a Bioweapon? w/Michael Osterholm | Joe Rogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhk-9OcrU

It's not engineered.

Answer 15

people are saying it is

Answer 16

there is only one lab that it was made in in China and its in Wuhan and it first came from Wuhan

Answer 17

I'd recommend watching the video.

Answer 18

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmk

Answer 19

The only thing that's obvious is that people are willing to believe almost anything a government official, the media, or a doctor says without question. There's an underlying thought that pre-exists in most people's minds and that is that Those people can be trusted, almost without question. And that is exactly what is happening here. People are accepting the pandemic without questioning its validity. They are just reacting and responding to it as if it were gospel. From my perspective, the people who are willing to believe such people without questioning are under a spell.

Answer 20

lol gospel

Answer 21

With that statement, you can discredit any source and debate and intellectual discourse becomes meaningless. That's nice I guess.

Answer 22

It's not really worth it to talk with someone who isn't open-minded. Believe what you want I guess.

Answer 23

You as well. Believe what you want. You choose to believe without question. Your choice.

Answer 24

A blind choice, but yours nevertheless

Answer 25

Honestly, I agree with Hero's first statement. This really is going out of control...especially for a virus that barely has a chance to be fatal. As mentioned, the elderly are the one being affected by this. Not everyone. And even so, I'm sure the scientists around the world will have cure out in less than a matter of months.

The fact that big events are being cancelled, and stores are being wiped clean of product is a exaggeration, in my opinion. It'll all be over in months.
As Hero said, it's real, but it's too much of a response.

Answer 26

Though I of course still push for the fact we keep safe from it with regular body hygiene and cleansing.

Answer 27

^

Answer 28

I have really high hopes that i will not gget it bc my real name is Korona

Answer 29

are you for real? my dad was making a joke that it would be funny if someones name was corona and then last name virus

Answer 30

Dm me and ill tell you

Answer 31

k

Answer 32

I'm sure the virus won't affect you solely because of your name.

Answer 33

no but its kinda funny if you got and youre name was that

Answer 34

I just wanted to say that my grandma is the least worried about the corona-virus and even though it ain't that big a deal to me (online schooling/strong constitution), it kinda bothers me that an old person is who barely washes their hands and is probably likely to die from just any virus she picks up (corona or otherwise) and isn't at all weary. I personally am impartial to the corona-virus because even if it is a big deal 1. I go to an online school so I am never in public and 2. even if I did get the corona-virus or any other virus like it, I have a strong physical constitution and would just be a carrier of it. So the virus doesn't really affect me (whether or not it is a big deal)

Answer 35

This is definitely fishy I mean yeah they're shutting down schools and restaurants but we gotta be honest, my school was still open today and all others closed but this is fishy and I agree with Hero, I believe it's a Hoax as well.

Answer 36

fishy lol

Answer 37

Belief, or faith, is to put ones self somewhere absent of facts. This contrasts to what I have asserted, which are positions based on evidence and facts. You may disagree with the premise of evidence but that just puts you in a world with no debate, and your ideas will perpetually survive.

You have quarantined yourself.

And that's fine, but when I see death toll of over 6,500 world wide and experts noting how Mother Earth crafted one hell of an effectively spreading virus, I have concerns. I have a Grandma, and other elderly family members with pre-existing conditions and other health issues. And everyone has people like that.

So I do think that there is validity to fear. It is already devastating economies and families world wide. This is a pandemic. If it isn't, what are you going to call it? Flu season? COVID-19 has killed 6,500 world wide and it isn't even prevalent yet. Just wait for it to become viral in a population and then maybe you will agree..

Answer 38

I already called it what it is. A Hoax. There is a global website called abovetopsecret.com . On it someone asked the question, "Who has the coronavirus" to which no one has yet to confess that they have contracted the disease. You can read it here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1258306/pg1

I'm going to be creating another post soon concerning further related observations and doubts.

Answer 39

Shadow, of course it's normal to be worried about our family members. Especially the seniors. And the virus is real and a pandemic. But I still believe it won't last long, despite it being fatal.

SARS was like Covid, killing many people in 2003. But it was quickly contained. There is cause for worry, yes, however there is the chance it is a hoax as well, as Hero is saying. We never truly know with this world. But it won't be a pandemic that will last years to come.
Looking forward to the next update.

Answer 40

My point of issue is this framework of belief. Hero will only accept something as fact until he sees it in his face. 'We can't believe all these other people because they aren't us.' This kind of logic and place any given situation is a room of conspiracy, and then throw doubt at it.

Maybe it is a hoax, but where is the proof?. Economies are shifting and death tolls are being counted, do to its deigned classification as a pandemic. You want to tell the prime minister of Italy that his country is being shut down by a hoax? That it isn't a pandemic?

Lol.

Answer 41

Here's a YT comment I found a couple days ago which encapsulated why it ought to be taken seriously.

Answer 42

I really don't know what to think, but my parents are taking this super seriously. Every time I leave the house I have to take a shower immediately (like when I go to the store or whatever). I am completely banned from going out with my friends for like a couple weeks. So I hope its a hoax but I guess it is serious. Like I really don't know

Answer 43

I read the post Shadow and I guess people here don't know the situation. And what they might be into

Answer 44

The virus is very well real, and there's no doubt in that. Precautions are necessary at all costs.

I'm just skeptical about the source and spread. It's just a theory, but I do think that there are some intentional contributions to the birth and spread of the virus. It could be a biowarfare, some political stunt, or some large corporate gimmick. China's inefficiency and lack of responsiveness along with cover-ups could've been to mask the HK situation and the Muslim genocide they were doing. Is anyone talking about that now?

Also, there was a trade war between the U.S. and China going on at the time, but it seems like the virus ruined all the possibilities and outcomes. China could've done this to downplay US' impact on the trade war, because China was originally on the lower hand of it. Now, knowing that China has an absolute advantage in the supply of medical equipment, notice that China is not willing to export to the US. It could be to help internal matters, but more importantly, put the US at loss.

Answer 45

^

Answer 46

^Much better argument than what I've been hearing.

The only issue I have with that is that China has been pumping out propaganda to limit the negative publicity of China. Maybe they did it to cover up their atrocities and trade loss, but their economy and image are directly suffering at the moment. I don't know which is better for them, but it doesn't seem strategic to let a virus spread and guess how bad it gets. You're not able to control it, so it becomes an unreliable weapon.

Just a quick btw, as per this 3min video, it's not an engineered bioweapon by China.
Is the Coronavirus a Bioweapon? w/Michael Osterholm | Joe Rogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhk-9OcrU

Answer 47

wait wait, what is happening. Are you guys saying that China created this virus as a weapon, didn't they suffer a lot from this?

Answer 48

And what is this with blaming Bill Gates for the virus

Answer 49

I'm personally claiming that it's NOT a bioweapon by China.

Answer 50

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wait wait, what is happening. Are you guys saying that China created this virus as a weapon, didn't they suffer a lot from this?
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Suffer?

They got rid of their dependent population! This helped them economically, not hurt them. Dependents are a burden to any economy, especially the elderly.

I'm not sure that this is a bioweapon. But I'm just saying that the roots and spread seems suspicious to me.

Answer 51

The video is quoted is from a guy who worked in bioweapon defense. Experts can see that the virus jumped off of animals and to humans, which fits the fact that the virus originated in the markets of Wuhan, China.

Answer 52

I'm simply claiming it's a pandemic that will blow over soon enough. At least a few months.

Answer 53

Wait, so China killed their own elderly population, is that your claim @justjm

Answer 54

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Wait, so China killed their own elderly population, is that your claim @justjm
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It's not my claim. The virus killed mostly the elderly, but this indirectly helps China. Elderly citizens are seen as economic burdens because they are not active in the labor force but the government has to pay for them. China is also known in the past to use extreme measures to get things done, so it's just my theory that the virus was used for secondary gains.

Answer 55

Following that point of China gaining something out of Covid... isn't it possible China already has the cure and is just simply holding it off from the rest of world, including U.S? Until their needs are brought out? Like I said, we never know. Thoughts like these are the reasoning people see this as suspicious, I'm guessing.

Answer 56

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The virus is very well real, and there's no doubt in that. Precautions are necessary at all costs.

I'm just skeptical about the source and spread. It's just a theory, but I do think that there are some intentional contributions to the birth and spread of the virus. It could be a biowarfare, some political stunt, or some large corporate gimmick. China's inefficiency and lack of responsiveness along with cover-ups could've been to mask the HK situation and the Muslim genocide they were doing. Is anyone talking about that now?

Also, there was a trade war between the U.S. and China going on at the time, but it seems like the virus ruined all the possibilities and outcomes. China could've done this to downplay US' impact on the trade war, because China was originally on the lower hand of it. Now, knowing that China has an absolute advantage in the supply of medical equipment, notice that China is not willing to export to the US. It could be to help internal matters, but more importantly, put the US at loss.
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Large corporate gimmick on a global scale except they kill real people here and there to keep the lie going.