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imyoursgirlsgirl:

major math help

imyoursgirlsgirl:

imyoursgirlsgirl:

@AZ

AZ:

It's a similar concept but here's the formula for this

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AZ:

so basically little segment * big segment = the other side segment multiplied by itself and you have to be careful here because the big segment is 2 + x It's the entire thing so you have to add it up

imyoursgirlsgirl:

so 3*x=2squared?

AZ:

no the small segment is 'x' the large segment is x + 2 the other side is sqrt(3) and remember sqrt 3 * sqrt 3 = 3 so can you write it out now

imyoursgirlsgirl:

sorry im confused

gabej37uy263843:

same

imyoursgirlsgirl:

lol

gabej37uy263843:

lmao

AZ:

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imyoursgirlsgirl:

so 3squared=x(x+2)

gabej37uy263843:

lol

AZ:

it's square root of 3 squared so \( (\sqrt{3}) ^2 \) and that is equal to 3 so we 3 = x(x+2) can you distribute the x

imyoursgirlsgirl:

so times x with everything in the ( )

imyoursgirlsgirl:

x times x is x lol and x time 2 is 2 cause x is 1

AZ:

x times x is x^2 no x is not one so x times 2 is 2x

AZ:

so what is x(x+2) equal to

imyoursgirlsgirl:

i was right the first ime god i was thinking that but i 2nd guessed myself

AZ:

can you write it all together now with a + sign in between

imyoursgirlsgirl:

so 3=2x?

AZ:

no no |dw:1620607935244:dw|

imyoursgirlsgirl:

oh ok

AZ:

do you know how to solve a quadratic equation

imyoursgirlsgirl:

no

AZ:

so subtract 3 on both sides x^2 + 2x - 3 = 0 what two numbers can multiply to get -3 and add up to 2

imyoursgirlsgirl:

1 times -3 = -3

AZ:

but it doesn't add to +2 but if you change it to -1 and +3 that does do you see that?

AZ:

so we have x^2 + 2x - 3 and separate 2x into -1x + 3x x^2 -1x + 3x - 3 can you factor it x^2 - 1x factor out x 3x - 3 factor out 3

imyoursgirlsgirl:

the answer is -1?

AZ:

no, how did you get that?

AZ:

we need to factor x^2 + 2x - 3 = 0 we said +2x can be written as -1x + 3x since those two numbers add to +2 and multiply to give you -3 and so we have x^2 - 1x + 3x - 3 = 0 and we need to factor it by grouping x^2 - 1x factor out x 3x - 3 factor out 3 what do you get?

imyoursgirlsgirl:

im confused?

AZ:

do you know how to factor out things so for example we have x^2 - 1x we can factor out the x (x^2 - 1x) (x*x - 1*x) and if we take out an x and move it outside the parenthesis, we get x(x - 1) that's how we factor it out and it's the same thing that we had originally because if we distribute it back x(x-1) = x^2 -1x so you see? it's still the same thing but we're just re-writing it

AZ:

now similarly 3x + 3 can you factor out the 3? what is 3x divided by 3 and what is 3 divided by 3

imyoursgirlsgirl:

3 divided by 3 is 1

AZ:

yes and 3x divided by 3 is going to be x so when we factor it, we get 3x - 3 = 3(x - 1)

AZ:

So now we have x^2 - 1x + 3x - 3 = 0 x(x-1) + 3(x-1) = 0 and we can factor out the (x-1) from the two terms and get (x-1) (x+3) = 0

AZ:

and to solve for x you should know that if we have ab = 0 that means either a = 0 or b = 0 so either x - 1 = 0 or x + 3 = 0 can you solve for x?

imyoursgirlsgirl:

3x=0?

imyoursgirlsgirl:

this is mad confusing

AZ:

no x - 1 = 0 add 1 to both sides and for the other one x + 3 = 0 subtract 3 on both sides

AZ:

apples and oranges.. you can't just smash them together and call it one thing x + 3 does not become 3x

imyoursgirlsgirl:

-3x=-3 and -1x=-1?

AZ:

x + 3 means x plus 3 and to move three to the other side to get x all by itself you have to do the opposite of addition since we're adding 3 so to undo that, we have to subtract on both sides x + 3 = 0 subtract 3 on both sides x + 3 - 3 = 0 - 3 + 3 - 3 becomes 0 x = 0 - 3 and 0 - 3 is -3

AZ:

@imyoursgirlsgirl wrote:
-3x=-3 and -1x=-1?
no no you can't smash it together like that

imyoursgirlsgirl:

im mad confused and is late

imyoursgirlsgirl:

its*

AZ:

look x - 1 = 0 x is your apple the -1 is your orange we cannot add apples and oranges together we're subtracting 1 from x so to move that 1 to the other side, we have to do the OPPOSITE of subtraction which is addition

imyoursgirlsgirl:

so x=1

AZ:

x - 1 = 0 what do you get if you add 1 to both sides? x - 1 + 1 = 0 + 1 what is -1 + 1 = ?? what is 0 + 1 = ?? basically we want to know what x is equal to and that means having 'x' all by itself

imyoursgirlsgirl:

0+1 is 1

AZ:

exactly and -1 + 1 = 0 because if you have negative 1 and I give you a 1 it means you're at 0 think of negative 1 as in you're in debt and you owe someone 1 dollar but now if you get 1 dollar, that means you can pay off your debt and now you have 0 debt so now we got x = 1

AZ:

that's one of your answers for the other one x + 3 = 0 subtract 3 on both sides x + 3 - 3 = 0 - 3 what is 3 - 3 = ?? and what is 0 - 3 = ??

imyoursgirlsgirl:

x=3 sorry @AZ my computer died

AZ:

nope nope it's 0 - 3 it should be negative

imyoursgirlsgirl:

oh sorry i didnt really read. -3

imyoursgirlsgirl:

so id the first box 1 or 2nd box

imyoursgirlsgirl:

??

AZ:

so extraneous solution means that it is a solution that we solved for but it isn't a real solution to the question think about it, can the answer really be negative? so that one is going to be the second box since it's an extraneous solution

AZ:

because the length of 'x' cannot be negative

imyoursgirlsgirl:

oh ok

AZ:

@imyoursgirlsgirl wrote:
so id the first box 1 or 2nd box
so the first box is 1 and the second is -3

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