Suppose that you take out an unsubsidized Stafford loan on September 1 before your junior year for $4500 and plan to begin paying it back on December 1 after graduation and grace period 27 months later. The interest rate is 6.8%. How much of what you will owe will be interest?
i believe its $661.76
cantorset can we use induction on your problem? do you know what that is?.
yes we can
how did you find me, lol
i went to the homepage and you can see what everyone is doing
the chat program doesnt work for me
ok lets do this one for all n>=5 , n^3 < 3^n
ok
for n=5, we have 5^3=125<243=3^5. Sold the inequality holds for n=5
right, basis case
now we should assume it is true for integers k>=5 Then we show it is true for k+1 the induction step is the hardest so let me think about it
it seems that you are going over logs so i'm pretty sure we may have to involved that somehow
hmmm, they may be unrelated though. here is what i got ,
that was a different question
is there a way to post without having to click my mouse on post?
no i guess not
show that (k+1)^3 < 3^(k+1)
k^3 + 3k^2 + 3k + 1 < 3^(k+1)
omg i got it
i got so excited i clicked out sorry. so we have (k+1)^3<K^3+1^3=k^3+1<3^k+1
k ^3 + 3k^2 + 3k + 1 < k^3 + 3k^2 + 3k + 3k = k^3 + 3k^2 + 6k < k^3 + k^3 + k^3 = 3k^3 < 3*3^k = 3^(k+1)
(k+1)^3 = k ^3 + 3k^2 + 3k + 1 < k^3 + 3k^2 + 3k + 3k = k^3 + 3k^2 + 6k < k^3 + k^3 + k^3 = 3k^3 < 3*3^k = 3^(k+1)
i got excited ignore what i wrote
(k+1)^3<K^3+1^3=k^3+1<3^k+1 this is false
my proof isnt elegant, but i think it works, might have to do some side induction arguments for the intermediate steps
you are right i got excited
also you better use parenthesses :) more often
the log proof is A LOT easier
yep
what did you get? log_3 n < n if n < 3^n , assuming we raise both sides to 3
or you can start, if we can show that n < 3^n , for n>=1, then taking the log base 3 of both sides we have our result. what was your logic?
ok lets skip the case for n=1 that is easy to do and we know it holds. so assume for integer k, log3(k)<k (3is base) now we want to show log3(k+1)<k+1 so we have ...
so that proof goes, 1 < 3^n, assume k < 3^k then add 1 to both sides of that inequality we have k + 1 < 3^k + 1 < 3^k + 3 = 3^(k+1)
yea maybe we should base 3 on both sides to get rid of log
you mean exponentiate?
you cant get rid of log with log :)
can you help me with surface area of integral
surface area of a solid?
surface area of a torus
so you cant finish the proof with log, no problemo
one thing at a time
how do you find the question i posted earlier
this website is so confusing
are you given the equation for the torus or is it a parametric curve/
Calculus question: surface area of a torus. it is generated by circle with radius r , off center. Suppose the circle is centered at (x - R)^2 + y^2 = r^2, and R> r. so the distance from (0,0) to the center of the circle is (R,0) which has radius r. Ok the integral i got is int 2pi y sqrt [ 1+ (dy/dx)^2] = int 2pi sqrt ( r^2 - ( x-R)^2) [ 1 + (-2(x-R)/(2sqrt( r^2 - ( x-R)^2) ^2 ]
we are given a circle , and its going to generate the torus by revolving about the y axis
the final answer should be 4pi^2 R*r
so that last thing you have the square cancels the sqrt
ok im just going to do it on paper and scan it and you can open it give a few min
right, good :) ok here is what i got
integral 2pi y dS, remember ds can be sqrt 1 + dx/dy ^2 or sqrt 1 + dy/dx ^2
we need another pi in there somewhere
since are answer has pi^2
this is what i got using the integral you found we can get times another pi it would be correct
don't look at the name of the file. i know we are not finding volume
right, its surface area, here lets use twiddla
if you dont mind, we can draw on whiteboard
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