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OpenStudy (anonymous):

is sinx a polynomial........?????????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It can be written as an infinite series, so yes, a polynomial of infinite degree.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cant get u!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sinx isn't polynomial which only works for sin(x), is to notice that sin(x) has infinitely many zeroes - no polynomial or rational function has this many zeros.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you know what a taylor series is, brah?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no......

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sin x = x - \frac{x^3}{3!} + \frac{x^5}{5!} - \frac{x^7}{7!} + ... \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When x is measured in radian.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sin x is a trigonometric function. A polynomial is in the form ax^n+bx^n-1+...+cx+d A rational function is the quotient of two polynomials. e^x is not a rational function, but it is an exponential function because it is in the form a^x where is a constant, and e is a constant.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Tian do you go to Cambridge? I do.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Use the taylor's polynomial for sin(x) to find the rates of convergence of the following Taylor expansion of sin(x) about x=0 is sin(x) = x - x^3 / 3! + x^5 / 5! - x^7 / 7! + ... so sin(x) / x = 1 - x^2 / 3! + ... In the limit that x goes to zero, [sin(x)/x] = 1 - (0)^2 / 3! + ... = 1 Second way...extra:) hehe Consider a trigonometric circle with its center O and a tangent to this circle at A Let M be any point on The ciricle, and project M on the x-asis and name it H and let T be the tangent Thetha which is from A to T http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1252/ … As you realize in the picture Area of Triangle OAT = half tan thetha and Area of triangular sector OAM = thetha / 2 and Area of OHM : sin thetha = MH /OM (where OM =1 cz its a trigonometic circle ) ==> MH = Sin thetha ==> Area of OHM = (sin theha cos theha) /2 Therefore we can conclude that Area of OHM is smaller than OAM which is smaller than triangle OAT ==> (sing thetha cos thetha) /2 < thetha/2 < (tan thetha) / 2 multiply this by ( thetha / sin thehta) ==> we get cos theha < thetha / sin thetha < 1/cos thetha let thetha tend to zero that is cos thetha = cos 0 = 1 ==> 1- < lim tetha /sin thetha as thetha goes to zero < 1+ ==> lim sin thetha / tjhetha as thjetha goes to 0 = 1 PS: Dont forget that lim sin thetha / thetha as thetha tends to zero = lim thetha / sin thetha as thetha tends to zero ! Hope i helped you :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What. The. flutter.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Newton I hope so

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I thought you said it wasn't a polynomial?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then copypasted some random stuff that is vaguely related at the very most.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah I think sinx isn't polynomial by my first argument

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:@

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the point is that ..............my doubt is not clear yet........clear it!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Whatever. I'm not going to argue semantics.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think a polynomial should have a finite number of terms.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sinx isn't polynomial, sin(x) has infinitely many zeroes - no polynomial or rational function has this many zeros.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Actually, 0 is a polynomial and has infinitely many 0s...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

All we have to do to settle this is to check the definition of a polynomial.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sin x may not be a polynomial (in your baby, non-cantab definitions), but the reasoning given is incorrect.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the power must be a whole numbr

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Whatever, I don't have time to argue with people who get their arguments of wikipedia and yahoo answers. this is like when 48/2(9+3) was asked. Yes, wolfram says something so it's right. People need to learn what REAL mathematicians do and stop this nonsense.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Polynomial has to be of finite degree, so I made a mistake (not that definitions change how I do mathematics, so it's irrelevant). But the person who argued with me copied their argument DIRECTLY from yahoo answers and made some glaring mistakes. I don't have time for this pellet any more.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it isn't a polynomial :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a polynomial is : f(x) = x^2 + 3 and etc. This is not :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

WOW.. did somebody kill somebody?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol, why , who's dead ._.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hopefully not me :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sin(x) has infinitely many zeroes - no polynomial or rational function has this many zeros. ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sooooo, it's not a polynomial lol . I hope you're not confused sid :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

INew lol , cool down :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

STOP quoting some nobody off yahoo answers. 0 is a polynomial and has infinitely many 0s.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

._. I'm not , I'm talking

OpenStudy (anonymous):

based on knowledge and experience. Hey it's okay to make mistakes, don't get all boiled up for a question, calm down

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u guys r more confuse thn me............

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LOL!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hold on sid :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

clear my doubt..........

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we apologize for the vagueness, just a second ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

INew, first calm down lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sin(x) has an infinite degree which (apparently) makes it not a polynomial. Also, it has infinite zeros, so can'y be a polynomial. Source: Yahoo answers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

eat ice cream ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just because our answers sounded alike, doesn't mean we have copied them INew :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

many answers sound alike, and ofcourse they will since all lead to the same explanation and theorem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Maybe not yours, but the guy before copied 2 paragraphs directly, so please don't patronise me.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

fight..........killl..............

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh come on, let's not take it that way :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no sid, that's not my style, I take things calmly :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that guy is still onlyn!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright now, sid, read INew's post and tell me if you understood it or not okay?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My first post was wrong (apparently). But I didn't make a mistake, I just never needed to know the exact definition.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and INew, don't waste your energy in useless arguments, preserve it for better things ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is 'Inew'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

INew = INewton lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh........sry!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

read the recent post made by INew :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So Newton, Could you write the exact definition down?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and thank you for your help tian ^_^ ,all of you have been a great help to sid, but let's calm down now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so finally.........sinx is a polynomial or not....with reasons!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol, sin x is not a polynomial since it tends to go to infinity. A polynomial = has a finite number of zeros.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It doesn't go to infinity? It has an infinite number of terms.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

contradiction comes.........i m frustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Example : \[f(x) = x^2 -1\] = (x-1)(x+1) where the zeros are x = 1, -1 <-- finite numbers of zeros but sin x keeps on oscillating b/w -1 and 1 and never stops, so that's why it's not a polynomial

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sid dear, calm down , don't panic :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f(x) = 0 INFINITE NUMBER OF ZEROS BUT POLYNOMIAL OF DEGREE ZERO.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LOL! INew shut the caps =D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

come to india .............and kill me!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll slap you instead to wake u up

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol, hush now, we're going to explain it, if you don't get me, then INew will explain it, if you don't get her , then someone else, alright? now hush LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

both of u ......as a unit...........give me the final nd the CORRECT answer!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wtf I'm not a her

OpenStudy (anonymous):

SID! LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

INEW, eat ICE CREAM and stay away from bananas!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lolzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!........sry 4 dat

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In mathematics, a BABY polynomial is an expression of finite length, containing variables and constants. The Fundamental Theorem of Algebra says that a BABY polynomial of degree n can be written as the product of n linear factors. Sin(x) is a taylor series of infinite length, and therefore not a BABY polynomial.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol, I liked how you've put it "baby" polynomial, so sid do you get it now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so sinx is not a polynomial bcos it has infinite roots!!!!!!!is it.......

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

NO. It is of an infinite degree, with an infinite number of terms. NOT because of infinite roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

same scenario as long as he got the picture lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But by your logic, f(x) = 0 isn't a polynomial.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

listen u guyz .....u may be a cambridgian or etc.etc........i m a scul going boy............new to maths..........dont kno so advance concepts...lyk taylor series.etc.etc

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Protip: Taylor series isn't advanced.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

INew, let's not get him into the series maze ._. from now, just simply explain it in a simple way LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am taking taylor series next week

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so, it's sorta advanced for him?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

at some point u guyz would also have been as i m today!!!!!!dont forget........

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Lol, don't worry :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright, listen If you plot a graph for sin x, you'll notice it oscillating between -1 and 1 and never stops, as in never dies, it goes to infinity On the other hand, when you plot a simple function such as f(x) = x^2 or f(x) = ax + bx + c ( which is a polynomial ) you'll have a line, parabola or curve. A polynomial is : (ax + bx + c), does sin(x) have this form? if yes, then it's a polynomial, if not, then it isn't.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did I make it easier? ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now you tell me, is it a polynomial? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

no ...it is not

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