any body can derive the formula for a surface area and volume of cone through integration(calculus)??????????
its been done already :)
hahaha
the typical radius is what.... is what, the slope of the linear between radius and height?
you are adding up all the circumferences of the circles from 0 to h
volume is easy
the base of a cone is shaped as a circle
[S] 2pi [f(x)] dx ...right?
i tried integrating it bt i guess well have 2 use the volume of a frustum
so the base area is \[\pi r^2\]
if you use the disc method to integrate it into a cone, first we need to find the volume of each disc
do we include the area of the base into surface area? or is it an open base?
the disc method dint wrk out
if dx is the width of each disc, then the volume would be \[\pi r^2dx\]
i tried this
r = [f(x)] right?
now since the radius of a cone changes as the position of the disc changes, we need to find r in terms of x
f(x) = h = linear equation from point (0,r) to (r,h)
or... (0,x) to (x,y) :)
ack...(x,0.. my mistake)
dV= πr2^2dx
him; deriving to get volume?
integrate
if a cone has radius r and height h, the radius of the disc will be \[({-r \over h}x +r)\]
r=xtant
do we have a height and a radius?
so the volume of the disc is \[\pi ({-r \over h}x+r)^2dx\]
now we will find the limits of integration
this one is easy, the height is h, so the limit of integration is from x=0 to x=h thus the integral we are looking for to find the volume is \[\int\limits_{0}^{h} \pi ({-r \over h}x+r)^2dx\]
when you integrate it you will get \[{1 \over 3}\pi r^2\]
dV=πr^2dh r=Rh/H dh=Hdr/R dV=πr^2Hdr/R V= πR^3 x H/3R
did it help at all ?
yeah i think this takes care f d volume
now let's work on the surface area
dS=2πrdl l=rL/R dl= Ldr/R S= 2Lπrdr/R πR^2 L/R = πRL
DONE!!!!!!!!!!
the same idea is applied to the problem, but now instead of a volume, we are looking for an area. so instead of a disc, we will consider the lateral area of the disc, which can be found by \[2\pi r *dx\]
thanks a lot fr the solution
again, the radius of a cone changes, so we need to find the radius in terms of x. But we already found it, which is again \[{-r \over h}x+r\]
again, the radius of a cone changes, so we need to find the radius in terms of x. But we already found it, which is again \[{-r \over h}x+r\]
so the lateral area of the discs can be found by \[2\pi[ {({-r \over h} )x+r}]dx\]
now for this one, you have to be careful with the limit of integration
the length of the slanted height is going to be my limit of integration because we are finding the lateral area of each discs so that all dx's add up to the slanted height.
so if we could find the slanted height we are good to go
now you can see that the slanted height makes a right triangle with the height of the cone and the radius of the base
so if I call L my slanted height, \[L = \sqrt{h^2 + r^2}\]
S.A = L*2pi*r, where L is the slant length V = A*h, in this case height is dx, r = x so we have; \[\pi\int_0^x x^2 dx = (1/3)\pi x^3 \]
so the integration we have to do is \[\int\limits_{0}^{L} 2\pi[({-r \over h})x+r]dx\]
which ends up being \[\pi rL\]
or \[\pi r \sqrt{h^2+r^2}\]
I hope that helps :)
Give me about 5min to get the picture of why the radius is \[{-r \over h}x+r\]
dV=πr^2dh r=Rh/H dh=Hdr/R dV=πr^2Hdr/R V= πR^3 x H/3R
thats the vol
It would be nice if you could tell me if it helped or not ... :)
ya it helped thanks
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