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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got a doubt in limits see below for my question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\]\[sinax / tanbx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its 0/0 form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is the actual question \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} sinax/tanbx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

differentiate top and bottom acos(ax) / b sec^2 (bx)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sub x=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

answer = (a/b)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

multiply and divide by bx/ax

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't know differntiation and u mean that i should multiply the numerator by ax/ax and denominator by bx/bx????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I dont even know what him was on bout either lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you havent done derivatives then your teacher shouldnt be giving you this question !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this can be done without derivatives

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's wat i am saying him1618 you are right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how? , and its much easier with derivatives, 2lines of work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its not pinching theorm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah its easier..no doubt 110 times out of 100 id use derivatives, but the fact is that if hes doing limits fundamentally its imperative for him to know the fundamental steps..rather than shortcuts

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i guess he wants a legitimate fundamental method which uses standard limit definitions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly now can u pls explain

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first divide above and below by x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then make a form like this \[[\sin( ax )/ax] /[\tan (bx)/bx] \] x a/b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the book i am goin through says multiply the numerator by ax/ax and the denominator by bx/bx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah thats right..dont look at the solns..which book is this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u understood wt i did?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope the book is my coaching book

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did not understand wat wud happen if i divided by x????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its the same thing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok divide sin ax by ax and tan bx by bx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then you will have to multiply by a/b also, to keep it the same..understand?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so sinax by ax, with x tending to zero is 1, and so is tanbx by bx so the ans is 1 x a/b a/b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

samjha?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeh I remember that way , just the way the question looked put me off lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

also, I just differentiate top and bottom etc, its so easy and there no brain required

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah everyone does that..me too.bt the kid wanted a method...i know no one in the world would not use derivatives for this..even the kid will start using em after a couple of months

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok ab question yeh hai ki jo ax aur bx hum multiply aur divide karte hain woh idhar kya kar rahen hai???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tujhe pata hai sinx / x is 1 when x tends to zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do i k now dat is it a rule or smthing??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its the first rule you learn in limits

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me check

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sinx / x =1 and tanx / x is 1 when x tends to zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k yes got it!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now if you have sin kx /x with x tending to zero and k any integer, whts the limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it ax/bx??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sin kx / x with x tending to zero??answer kya hai?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no its k

OpenStudy (anonymous):

multiply and divide by k

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah its k sorry yaar!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so in the same way u treat ur question as two different limits and then take their ratio...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but if we do dis we get \[\sin ax/ax * ax = 1*ax = ax\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but then u have bx below..cancel x..u get a/b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can i cancel (sin ax)/ax ka x???? to get a i don't think so!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

vaise u cant..but when uve got b in the denominator u can

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how and y can i do dat??? any spl reason behind it???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

abe...............sinax / ax / tanbx / bx x a/b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it the same as sinax/tanbx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yups

OpenStudy (anonymous):

to evaluate sinax/tanbx u need to form sinax/ ax/tanbx/bx....to make the expression same uve got to multiply by a/b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

luks like i got it the sin x / x = 1 wala way!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got ax / bx where i can cancel x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is this tareeka ok!!!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sin ax / tan bx = sin(ax) x ax --------- ax ---------- tan (bx) x bx --------- bx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

theek hai?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is the ax between the 2 xes for multiplying

OpenStudy (anonymous):

abe that x is multiply

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if so tab theek hai got it!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanx got it!!!!!!!!

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