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OpenStudy (m):

double integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What do you need answered??

OpenStudy (m):

trying to use equation to write question but not working

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, they blame it on user error lol

OpenStudy (m):

hmm i click and nothing

OpenStudy (amistre64):

{SS} dx.dy ; [a,b] [c,d] works

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey amister!!!

OpenStudy (amistre64):

hi ;)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i saw a cute pic and figured... why not help lol

OpenStudy (m):

when you switch from 1 to 2 for dx and 0 to lnx for dy you end up with 0 to ln2 and e^y to 2

OpenStudy (m):

it's impossible to do this without equation lol

OpenStudy (amistre64):

is it dx.dy order ; or dy.dx order?

OpenStudy (m):

but shouldn't dy switch to 0 to 2?

OpenStudy (m):

going from dydx to dxdy

OpenStudy (amistre64):

so your re adjusting the intervals right?

OpenStudy (m):

answer book has it 0 to ln2

OpenStudy (m):

switching the order

OpenStudy (amistre64):

{S{Sdy}dx} ; x interval = [1,2] ; y interval = [0, ln(x)] originally right?

OpenStudy (m):

yeah

OpenStudy (amistre64):

then teh easiest thing to do is graph it; with the lines y=0, y=ln(x), x=1, x=2

OpenStudy (m):

when you switch shouldn't it be [0, 2] and [e^y, 0]

OpenStudy (m):

i mean [0, 2] and [e^y, 2]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

OpenStudy (m):

yeah i drew the pic but can't figure out the limits

OpenStudy (amistre64):

this is the area we want, you agree?

OpenStudy (m):

very nice yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

then we determine the switch this way right?

OpenStudy (m):

yeah

OpenStudy (amistre64):

{S{S} dx} dy} ; new y = [0,e^2] then, we want it a straigh line ...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ln(2) = y and new x = [e^y, 2]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

new y = [0,ln(2)] new x = [e^y,2] ; you said the book has an answer?

OpenStudy (m):

yeah

OpenStudy (amistre64):

y = ln(2) at the top right? so new y = [0,ln(2)]

OpenStudy (m):

that makes sense but when i look at another problem [0, 1] [4x, 4] dydx switches to [0, 4] [0, y/4] dxdy

OpenStudy (amistre64):

OpenStudy (m):

whoops ignore that it's [4, 0 ][0, sqrt x]dydx to [0, 2][4, y^2]dxdy

OpenStudy (m):

[0, 4][0, sqrt x]dydx to [0, 2][y^2, 4]]dxdy

OpenStudy (m):

^^ that's correct one lol

OpenStudy (amistre64):

gonna make me draw another pic aintcha lol

OpenStudy (m):

if i do it like the way you did it then should it new become [0, sqrt x][y^2, 4]dxdy?

OpenStudy (m):

lol you dont have to

OpenStudy (amistre64):

but I did lol

OpenStudy (m):

yeah

OpenStudy (m):

this is so confusing

OpenStudy (amistre64):

OpenStudy (amistre64):

your just switching out the new for the old; it takes practice, but clearly define the old and new

OpenStudy (m):

but the new limits would be [0, sqrt x][y^2, 4]dxdy

OpenStudy (m):

but answer says [0, 2][y^2, 4]dxdy

OpenStudy (m):

can you tell where i'm getting confused?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

look at the picture; the new limit goes to 0,2 becasue its no longer a part of the curve...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sqrt(x) is an old limit for an old y; that curve is no longer a part of the new y

OpenStudy (amistre64):

just like old x = 0 is no longer a part of new x interval;

OpenStudy (amistre64):

new y matches old x in that it is a limit that is defined from a point to point.... new x matches new y in that it is a limit from a curve to a point.....

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its like reading a map backwards to get back home .... you have to reorient it to make sense

OpenStudy (m):

i think im going to have to look at all the pictures again very slowly by myself lol

OpenStudy (m):

thanks for the help! need to start from top again

OpenStudy (amistre64):

good luck ;)

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