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OpenStudy (anonymous):
You need to distribute the -2 to each of the terms in the parentheses. Then you can solve it in the usual way.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i did that polPak and heres what i came up with
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-21
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Nope. What was the equation after you do the distributing?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-17 - 6x +6X -2-X
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
2(3X +1)
-17- X= 6X + 2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You forgot that it's a -2, not 2 you're distributing.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[-2(3x + 1) = -2(3x) -2(1) = -6x - 2\]
So you should have
\[17 - x = -6x -2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh so the 6 becomes -6x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
And the 2 becomes -2.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Err My equation is slightly wrong..
You should have \[-17 -x = -6x -2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-17 - x = -6 - 2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Don't lose track of the x on the -6. It's important
OpenStudy (anonymous):
then now i can solve for x
so the its
-17x -6 - 2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
No. -17 - x is not -17x and you can't just put them together like that.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok look at it like this.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You have this equation:
\[-17 - x = -6x -2\]
That means that \(-17 - x\) IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS \(-6x -2\)
So if they are the same then isn't \((-6x -2) + 2\) exactly the same as \((-17 - x) + 2\)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-17 - 8 so there for x is 8
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I have no idea what you are doing.. -17 - 8 doesn't enter into it.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i am just lost
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok stop doing things.. Just look at what I'm saying.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[-17 - x \text{ EQUALS } -6x -2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay lol i am stopping right now
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok? They are the same.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
That's what equals means right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok so now lets use some basic arithmetic rules to clean this up a bit.
First we can swap the terms on the left because addition can be rewritten in any order and it works the same..
\[-17 -x = -x -17\] right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Do you agree that those two are equal? Is 3+5 the same as 5+3 and -3 - 5 the same as -5 - 3?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
because you distribute right
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Commute, but yeah.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok, so -17 - x is the same as -x - 17.
But we also said that -17 - x was the same as -6x - 2.
So that means that -x - 17 must be the same as -6x - 2.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Right?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
right
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So now our equation looks like this:
\[-x - 17 = -6x - 2\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
that part i got is solving for x thats has me upside ways
OpenStudy (anonymous):
We'll get there.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So if those two things are the same.. Then isn't \[6x + (-x - 17) = 6x + (-6x - 2)\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Because we added 6x to both sides, and if they were equal to start with, they must still be equal.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay thats the part that throws me off
OpenStudy (anonymous):
How so?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
its like my flipping mind goes blank and i have no idea what comes next
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok relax for a second and lets talk about something else first.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
or maybe i am trying too hard to understand and i get tied up
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Think of a number, any number you want. Don't tell me what it is.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Now, tell me what 2 times that number is.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
184
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok. So now I will magically read your mind and tell you that your number is 92!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
How did I accomplish this sorcery?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you divided
OpenStudy (anonymous):
But how does that help me?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Because you told me that 2x = 182
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Well I know that if 2x = 182 then \[2x \times {1 \over 2} = 182 \times {1 \over 2}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so you have to find out what 2x amounts to
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Because you said that they were the same, so anything I do to both sides will maintain equality.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
And \[2x \times \frac{1}{2} = x\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
And \[182 \times \frac{1}{2} = 92\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So therefore x = 92
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So now I'm thinking of a number.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
91
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Whoops. Sorry I typo'd your response.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Shoulda been 184 not 182.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no one has ever broke it down like this thank you
OpenStudy (anonymous):
its okay
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so you want me to solve for your number
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Now if you take the number I'm thinking of, and add 17 to it. You will get 2 more than 6 times that same number.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So first. can you write an equation (using x for my number) which describes the statement I've given you?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2(6^6)+17=X
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Not quite. Lets break down what I said:
x + 17
The number I'm thinking of, and add 17 to it
=
IS
2 more than 6 times that number
2 + 6x
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Or better still
6x + 2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
12(6)=72+17=89
OpenStudy (anonymous):
No no no.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
OH WOW
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You keep jumping ahead ;)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay am slowing down
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
and laughing at myself
OpenStudy (anonymous):
np =)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Try again.
14 more than the number is 2 more than 4 times the number.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
We're just practicing turning english into equations.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Don't try to solve it yet. Just rewrite what I say in equation form.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Actually 14 more than the number is 5 more than 4 times the number.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
14 + n = 2(4)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Sorry
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Almost!
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
was i close
OpenStudy (anonymous):
The left side is right, the right side is not.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Try my last version, but break it down a bit.
If x is my number what is 4 times my number??
OpenStudy (anonymous):
14 + n = 5(4 + n) oh please be right
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You're doing great btw. It's important to have patience when working through this.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
No, that's not right still. Lets work through it a little at a time.