someone what am i doing wrong? Joe has a collection of nickels and dimes that is worth $6.10. If the number of dimes was tripled and the number of nickels was decreased by 49, the value of the coins would be $14.05. How many nickels and dimes does he have? my answe.1X+.05y=6.1 3(.1x)+.05y-49(.05)=14.05 .3x+.05y-2.45=14.05 .3x+.05y-.2.45-2.45=14.05+2.45 .3x+.05y-.05y=16.50-.05y .3x/.3=16.5/.3-.05y/.3 x=55+.16666667y
you aren't doing anything wrong. solve the two equations.
plug in x into initial equation and solve for y then for x
yah but the last equation is endless
.166666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666.....
why dont you try elimination of variable instead of substitution.
how do i do that?
0.1X+0.05y=6.1 --------------------equation 1 0.3x+0.05y=16.50 -----------------equation 2 multiply equation 1 by 3 and subtract equation 2 from it.
ooo like a matrix?
errrrr this doesnt make sense either
0.1X+0.05y=6.1 --------------------equation 1 0.3x+0.05y=16.50
oops
oooo it didnt save my work
multiply equation 1 by 3.
i did
and post what you got.
i have to redo it now cause it didnt save my work to show you
0.3x+0.15y = 18.3 is what you get if you multiply equation 1 by 3. so lets call 0.3x+0.15y = 18.3 ------- equation 3. subtract equation 2 from equation 3 and post what you got.
-.1(.1x+.05y)=-.1(6.1) .3x+0.05y=16.50 -.1x-.05y=-.61 .3x+.05y=16.5 -.04x=-17.11 -.04x/-.04=-17.11/-.04 x=427.75
this crap just doesnt make sense....
why did you multiply the equation by 0.1?
just subtract equation 1 from equation 2 and post what you got. use by equation notations.
i meant use my equation notation.
im more confused then when i started...
0.1X+0.05y=6.1 --------------------equation 1 0.3x+0.05y=16.50 -----------------equation 2 subtract equation 1 from equation 2. post what you get.
let me do it for you. equation 2 - equation 1 (0.3x+0.05y)-(0.1X+0.05y) = 16.50 - 6.1 make sense?
.2x+.1y=-10.4
oh wait .2x=-10.4
dude, you gotta work with me here. you subtracted 0.l3x - 0.1 x to get 0.2x. why did you ADD 0.05 y and 0.05y? you subtract everything, not just the variable you like. you do 0.05y-0.05y to get 0
come on man! 0.2x = +10.4, not -10.4 16.5-6.1 = 10.4 why did you get -10.4?
6.1-16.5
no, you are subtracting equation 1 FROM equation 2. that means you subtract 6.1 FROM 16.5
ok fine 10.4
right, so 0.2x = 10.4 which means x = 10.4/0.2 = 104/2 = 52
rather, x = 52 in equation 1
1(54)+.05y=6.1 54+.05y=6.1 54-54+.05y=6.1-54 .05y=-47.9
oops .05y/.05=-47.9/.05 y=-958
0.1X+0.05y=6.1 substitute x = 52 in equation 1 you get 0.1(52) + 0.05y = 6.1 5.2+0.05y = 6.1 0.05y = 6.1-5.2 0.05y=0.9 y = 0.9/0.05 y = 90/5 = 18 how can you get y = -958? how can you have negative nine hundred and fifty eight nickels? think!
oh dear lord my calculator sucks
you don't need a calculator for this. you multiplied 54 by 1 instead of multiplying it by 0.1
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no i meant oh
k so plug 18 in the first or second equation?
no you got your answer. you have 52 dimes and 18 nickels.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh g's im sorry for being so stupid
or rather, 52 nickels and 18 dimes.
im trying really hard to learn this stuff but it look slike chinese to me (ya know a foreign language)
right. you almost did it correctly. but you have to be careful while subtracting and adding. if you miss that you multiplied something by 1 rather than 0.1, it could lead to big problems down the road.
thanks for the tip....i really really appreciate your help
also, it helps if you put yourself in the position of the problem. suppose YOU had x amount of dimes and Y amount of nickels....... and so on. it helps you keep track of what you are trying to find, and not end up with nonsensical answers like -958. because you physically cannot have negative 900 odd nickels.
you are welcome. all the best!
thank you!
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