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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Limits:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

idea is this: if you replace x by -3 in the denominator you get 0. so the only way you have a hope of having a limit that is not undefined is if the numerator is 0 also when x=-3 so replace x by -3 in the numerator, set = 0 and solve

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2x^2+ax+a+14\] put x = -3 to get \[18-3a+a+14=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get a = 16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so numerator is \[2x^2+16x+30\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Great..it was right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok what did you get for the limit?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

one sec..let me do that part

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok factor and cancel

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{2x^2+16x+30}{x^2+2x-3}=\frac{2(x+3)(x+5)}{(x+3)(x-1)}=\] \[\frac{2(x+5)}{(x-1)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dunno. i got the above and if you replace x by -3 you get what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{2(-3+5)}{-3-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yeah -1 ! good work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got the answer already....i got -1...it was right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i saw it. good going

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have 2 more limit questions i need help with..do you think you can assist me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why not

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cant see it that well. if you replace x by 4 on the left and right do you get the same number?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually it doesn't look like it. you get 16-13=3 on the left yes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh and you get 3 on the right as well! so the limit is 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the old "squeeze theorem " or whatever it is called

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok the answer was right but can you please explain it some more so can understand better

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well you have an inequality that goes like this \[3\leq \lim_{x->4} f(x)\leq 3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which pretty much forces \[lim_{x->4}f(x)=3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

left and right side of inequality just plug in 4 to get the limit. since you get 3 both on the left and right that means the thing in the middle must also be 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok I get it..THANKS

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yw

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok one more and then I am done bothering you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

having a hard time reading this open office stuff. i see the denominator is \[\sqrt{5-x}-1\] yes? so when you plug in 4 you get 0. what is the numerator?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah i bet \[\sqrt{8-x}-2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

got it. you want \[\lim_{x->4}\frac{\sqrt{8-x}-1}{\sqrt{5-x}-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops numerator is wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{\sqrt{8-x}-2}{\sqrt{5-x}-1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

correct!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

gimmick is to multiply numerator and denominator by "conjugate" of the denominator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i figured that! but it became so complex

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{\sqrt{8-x}-2}{\sqrt{5-x}-1}\times \frac{\sqrt{5-x}+1}{\sqrt{5-x}+1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah it pretty much sucks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me see if i can figure out a trick. no l'hopitals rule yet i am sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry i am back! I had to put my son to bed...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok let me try to figure it out because i have to get this last problem done by 11pm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

on line course?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nope..online homework! It is an in class course at Purdue University

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What times are you usually on this website because I have an exam on Tuesday and it would be great to have some assistance from you to study for it if you have some free time to answer some questions.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well if you just want the answer... it is\[\frac{1}{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you want to know how to get it without using l'hopital's rule i will have to do some heavy algebra

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol the answer is great but I still need to know how to do it because I want to pass this exam

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is l'hopital's rule?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you haven't gotten to derivatives yet you cannot use it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok yea we are not on derivatives yet...but did u get my question from above

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you still there?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i am trying to figure out the algebra for this and it is not coming to me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

maybe multiplying by the conjugate is not the trick, although you will get 4 - x in the denominator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

problem is you get a bloody mess in the numerator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I will ask my professor tomorrow...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What times are you usually on this website because I have an exam on Tuesday and it would be great to have some assistance from you to study for it if you have some free time to answer some questions.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

usually in the evenings around this time.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the problem is that l'hopital is so easy, but you have to take derivatives

OpenStudy (anonymous):

got one in a book similar?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me call in the reinforcements

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LOL! yes i have one similar

myininaya (myininaya):

hey thanks for the invitation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there you are. thanks i cannot do this algebra.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

maybe multiplying by the conjugate is not the right thing to do. and no cheating by using l'hopital

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ taylor my myininaya is a ringer!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 2} \sqrt{6-x}-2/\sqrt{3-x}-1\]

myininaya (myininaya):

so i'm sorry there is too much too read what are we doing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

trying to compute this limit \[lim_{x->4}\frac{\sqrt{8-x}-2}{\sqrt{5-x}-1}\]

myininaya (myininaya):

oh okay i think i can do that give me a sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

easy answer of 1/2 using l'hopital. multiplying by the conjugate leads to algebra from hell

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i will be back in a few guys...I have a computer assignment due by 11:59 and still have 16 problems left so let me get that completed and then come back to this.. THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well just put in 1/2 but i am eagerly awaiting my myininaya's solution

myininaya (myininaya):

i got it...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am sure you would!

myininaya (myininaya):

\[\frac{\sqrt{8-x}-2}{\sqrt{5-x}-1}*\frac{\sqrt{5-x}+1}{\sqrt{5-x}+1}*\frac{\sqrt{8-x}+2}{\sqrt{8-x}+2}\] \[\frac{8-x-4}{5-x-1}*\frac{\sqrt{5-x}+1}{\sqrt{8-x}+2}=\frac{\sqrt{5-x}+1}{\sqrt{8-x}+2}\] just plug in 4 now!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lorda mercy conjugate twice! shoulda known. you are a superstar

myininaya (myininaya):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh of course. you make it look so easy. saw that i should get a factor of 4-x top and bottom.

myininaya (myininaya):

:)

myininaya (myininaya):

so is taylor gone i guess

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see what u did..THANKS

myininaya (myininaya):

np

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