let w=e^{(i*pie)/3} and a,b,c,x,y,z be non zero complex numbers such that
a+b+c=x
a+bw+cw^2=y
a+bw^2+cw=z
thn the value of ([x]^2+[y]^2+[z]^2)/([a]^2+[b]^2+[c]^2) is???
where [q] is mod q...
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OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
question from iit 2011
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ohkay
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
w is cube root of unity i believe.. the complex cube root of unity
OpenStudy (anonymous):
What's iit?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah it is
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OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
IIT-indian institute of technology
OpenStudy (anonymous):
it is the best institute in india for engineering
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok, thks, I didn't know...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Not really an engineering question:-)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah but after 12 th we have to give entrance test jee( i don't know the full form) it's from that
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OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
i had solved the ques using a short cut to save time
OpenStudy (anonymous):
jee to get into iit
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
jee-joint entrance exam
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Mind u, maybe u have to be an engineer to solve it..
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh well let me try it
well i get confused jee e for entrance or engineering lol
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OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
just take a=b=c=1 and get x,y,z and ur done!!!!! lol!!!! but now i want the technical answer
OpenStudy (anonymous):
well 3a = x+y+z
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
that did get me 4 marks in the paper..substitution
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
right add all the three. 1+w+wsquare is 0
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
any suggestions estudier??? ishaan i cant find a way ahead of it..
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
me too but wait a minute
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I don't like this kind of problems..:-
OpenStudy (anonymous):
well |3a| = |x + y+z|
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
dude do u remeber (a+b+c)(a+bw+cw^2)(a+bw^2+cw)=?????? its a formula.. i am not remembering
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but x^2 makes the possible minus vanish and hence
|x^2 + y^2+x^2| = x^2 + y^2 + z^2 \
just wait like 20 sec
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
a^2 + b^2 +c^2 -ab +ac -cb
OpenStudy (anonymous):
not including (a+b+c)
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
-ac dude.. all signs were same no?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
well including a+b+c it becomes x^3 + y^3 +z^3 -3xyz
x=a
y=b
z=c
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
ya right.. that was d formula..
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
lets do it x^2 + y^2 +z^2 you find y while i find x^2 and z^2
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
ok.. but i believe it is not so lenthy dude.. we get jus 3 minutes for a problem.. there must be some trick
OpenStudy (anonymous):
your right
OpenStudy (anonymous):
hey (x + y+z) ^2 = x2 +y2 + z2 +2xy + 2xz+2yz
OpenStudy (anonymous):
x + y +z = 3a
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
hey (x + y+z) ^2 = x2 +y2 + z2 +2xy + 2xz+2yz
I saw that in your puzzle from yesterday...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
9a^2 = x^2 + y^2 +z^2 +2xy + 2zy +2xz
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
right
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so ^2 make minus sign vanish
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
it implies x^2 = |x|^2
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
ofcourse.. its given just to confuse mod is not needed
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-ve sign don't exist in squares
OpenStudy (anonymous):
letme solve a lil
OpenStudy (anonymous):
:D
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OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
i believe iit didnt want us to use the substitution method.... coz i have not found a way out till now after 3 months i gae the exam
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
@face give it a try
OpenStudy (anonymous):
damn iit never let someone enter easily
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
but the substitution method is alays there!!!!! lol!! the only weak point of iit jee.. lol!!!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
well what was the options
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OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
*always
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
its an integer type ques 0 to 9 all options
OpenStudy (anonymous):
aahhhh scary
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
generally we mark 2 if we dun kno... 40 percent of ques hav ans 2 lol!!!
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok , Here I go
OpenStudy (akshay_budhkar):
ya go go bye. lol js kidding
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Okay Here we Have
\[x = a+b+c\]
\[y =a+bw+cw^2\]
\[z = a + bw^2+cw\]
Now we have to find
\[\large{\frac{|x|^2 + |y|^2 + |z|^2 }{a^2 + b^2 +c^2}}\]
\[|z|^2 = z*(conj.z)\]
\[conj.y = a+bw^2 +cw\]
\[conj.z = a+bw+cw^2\]
Okay So we have now
\[\frac{(a+b+c)^2 + 2(a + bw+cw^2)(a+bw^2+cw)}{a^2+b^2+c^2}\]
\[\frac{3(a^2+b^2+c^2) +2(ab+bc+ac) - 2(ab+bc+ac)}{a^2+b^2+c^2}\]\[3\]
Beautiful Solution : )