Ask your own question, for FREE!
Mathematics 15 Online
OpenStudy (anonymous):

who can help me to determine the derivative by limit..please

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f(x)=2x-1 \over 3x-5\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

by limit i believe is also called first principles ..

OpenStudy (amistre64):

...and this problem is more for helping you practice the long way of finding a derivative so that you appreciate the shortcuts later on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

help me please..

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what have you got so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I make that like this \[[(2(x+\Delta x)-1 \over 3(x+\Delta x)+] - 2x-1 \over 3x+5\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[f(x)=\frac{2x-1}{3x-5}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{2(x+h)-1}{3(x+h)-5}-\cfrac{2x-1}{3x-5}}{h}\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the idea is to expand it out; get like denominators on top and algebra it into something we can use ....

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{2(x+h)-1}{3(x+h)-5}-\cfrac{2x-1}{3x-5}}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{2x+2h-1}{3x+3h-5}*\cfrac{(3x-5)}{(3x-5)}-\cfrac{2x-1}{3x-5}*\cfrac{(3x+3h-5)}{(3x+3h-5)}}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{(6x^2 +6xh -13x -10h+5) -(6x^2 +6xh -13x -3h+5)}{9x^2 +9xh -30x -15h +25}}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{6x^2 +6xh -13x -10h+5 -6x^2 -6xh +13x +3h-5}{9x^2 +9xh -30x -15h +25}}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{ -7h}{9x^2 +9xh -30x -15h +25}}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{ -7h}{9x^2 +9xh -30x -15h +25}}{h}*\cfrac{\cfrac{1}{h}}{\cfrac{1}{h}}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \cfrac{-7}{9x^2 +9xh -30x -15h +25}\] now when h=0 we get \[\cfrac{-7}{9x^2 +9x(0) -30x -15(0) +25}\] \[\cfrac{-7}{9x^2 -30x +25}\] if i did it right

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(2x−1)/(3x−5) the short way is to use the quotient rule: [t/b]' = (bt'-b't)/b^2 (3x-5)(2) - 3(2x-1) ---------------- (3x-5)^2 6x-10 -6x +3 -7 --------------- = ------------- 9x^2 -30x +25 9x^2 -30x +25

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but for our assignment we need to use the three way step..

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i got no idea what a "3way step" is :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the f(x+ Deltax)-f(X) after you got the answer next is you will going to divide it into delta x and the last is the limit...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

all I did was rename "delta x" as "h"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah..okay...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i worked the f(x+h)-f(x) and then limited it ... so that covers it :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you try try this one...\[-x ^{3}-x ^{2}\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

id rather you try it try it an then I can see what you know

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh...amistre64 its positive 5 not negative..

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you mean 3x+5?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes..

OpenStudy (amistre64):

doesnt matter; the process is the same regardless; just the numbers change a little

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay...thank you by the way..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you using cross multiplication in the second step?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the second step I determined "like denominators" so that I could actually subtract f(x) from f(x+h)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay..

OpenStudy (amistre64):

cross multiply would be a bad description, if anything I multiplied the denominators together :) ... bottom multiplied perhaps?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes...i also think that:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

amistre in these equation: \[-x ^{3}-x ^{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do i need to write in this form -(x-deltax) or (-x-deltax)

Can't find your answer? Make a FREE account and ask your own questions, OR help others and earn volunteer hours!

Join our real-time social learning platform and learn together with your friends!
Can't find your answer? Make a FREE account and ask your own questions, OR help others and earn volunteer hours!

Join our real-time social learning platform and learn together with your friends!