who can help me to determine the derivative by limit..please
\[f(x)=2x-1 \over 3x-5\]
by limit i believe is also called first principles ..
...and this problem is more for helping you practice the long way of finding a derivative so that you appreciate the shortcuts later on
help me please..
what have you got so far?
I make that like this \[[(2(x+\Delta x)-1 \over 3(x+\Delta x)+] - 2x-1 \over 3x+5\]
\[f(x)=\frac{2x-1}{3x-5}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{2(x+h)-1}{3(x+h)-5}-\cfrac{2x-1}{3x-5}}{h}\]
the idea is to expand it out; get like denominators on top and algebra it into something we can use ....
\[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{2(x+h)-1}{3(x+h)-5}-\cfrac{2x-1}{3x-5}}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{2x+2h-1}{3x+3h-5}*\cfrac{(3x-5)}{(3x-5)}-\cfrac{2x-1}{3x-5}*\cfrac{(3x+3h-5)}{(3x+3h-5)}}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{(6x^2 +6xh -13x -10h+5) -(6x^2 +6xh -13x -3h+5)}{9x^2 +9xh -30x -15h +25}}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{6x^2 +6xh -13x -10h+5 -6x^2 -6xh +13x +3h-5}{9x^2 +9xh -30x -15h +25}}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{ -7h}{9x^2 +9xh -30x -15h +25}}{h}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \frac{\cfrac{ -7h}{9x^2 +9xh -30x -15h +25}}{h}*\cfrac{\cfrac{1}{h}}{\cfrac{1}{h}}\] \[\lim_{h->0} \cfrac{-7}{9x^2 +9xh -30x -15h +25}\] now when h=0 we get \[\cfrac{-7}{9x^2 +9x(0) -30x -15(0) +25}\] \[\cfrac{-7}{9x^2 -30x +25}\] if i did it right
(2x−1)/(3x−5) the short way is to use the quotient rule: [t/b]' = (bt'-b't)/b^2 (3x-5)(2) - 3(2x-1) ---------------- (3x-5)^2 6x-10 -6x +3 -7 --------------- = ------------- 9x^2 -30x +25 9x^2 -30x +25
but for our assignment we need to use the three way step..
i got no idea what a "3way step" is :)
the f(x+ Deltax)-f(X) after you got the answer next is you will going to divide it into delta x and the last is the limit...
all I did was rename "delta x" as "h"
ah..okay...
i worked the f(x+h)-f(x) and then limited it ... so that covers it :)
can you try try this one...\[-x ^{3}-x ^{2}\]
id rather you try it try it an then I can see what you know
oh...amistre64 its positive 5 not negative..
you mean 3x+5?
yes..
doesnt matter; the process is the same regardless; just the numbers change a little
okay...thank you by the way..
are you using cross multiplication in the second step?
the second step I determined "like denominators" so that I could actually subtract f(x) from f(x+h)
okay..
cross multiply would be a bad description, if anything I multiplied the denominators together :) ... bottom multiplied perhaps?
yes...i also think that:)
amistre in these equation: \[-x ^{3}-x ^{2}\]
do i need to write in this form -(x-deltax) or (-x-deltax)
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