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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Factorize 2x^3 - 7x^2 - 39x + 60 Pls provide detailed answer with pen and paper working..........

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hey Amistre !!! Can u help with this !!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks estudier !!! But the boy has not been taught these advanced methods. For quadratic polynomials only cases which can be solved by factorisation have been taught. For cubic polynomials, they hv been taught to find a factor by hit-and-trial method. then u divide the cubic polynomial by this factor to get a quadratic polynomial which u split to get the two remaining factors..... I can't apply that method to this question..... Can Amistre help with this ??????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If rational roots/guess and check plus usual calculus methods are all ruled out, then there is nothing to be done. Even if those methods were allowed it is a lot of calculations for 3 non integer roots.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

2x^3 - 7x^2 - 39x + 60 ; if its gonna be easy, then the rational roots will find it

OpenStudy (amistre64):

2x^3 - 7x^2 - 39x + 60 1,2,4,3,6,12,5,10,20,15,30,60 --------------------------- 1,2 thats alot of trials and errors to sort thru :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a) Not allowed b) It has 3 nasty roots.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

might be easiest with synthiec division to check results

OpenStudy (amistre64):

oww!! my eyes!!! .... nasty indeed

OpenStudy (amistre64):

since the roots arent well behaved; this way is simply not going to work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Trouble is, H is ruling out everything useful, derivatives, sign changes, rational roots, etc. Even with them, it's very difficult. About the only way is the depressed cubic which is something a computer should bedoing.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you sure you aint got a typo? we could approximate it with numerical analysises

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Also not allowed.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

my version of numerical analysis is akin to trial and error :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

guess and check..

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep, when it changes sign, back up and add smaller

OpenStudy (amistre64):

or subtract smaller til it changes again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, so what's your first guess (pretend you're a boy....)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I posted it becoz when I went through it myself I cud see that it was not solvable by the method that the student had been taught....... Just to be 100% sure before I told him to talk to his teacher about an "out of course" question, I thought I should consult you guys...... Now that I am sure, we can ask the teacher to award marks for this question to all students....

OpenStudy (amistre64):

my first guess would be a good round number, not to much filler, and a hint of cinnamon: 10

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Isn't 1 easier?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

2000 - 700 - 390 + 60 .... 1 might be easier, but im a boy lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:_)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

10 results in a positive number so lets back it up to 5..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When do these so called "summer schools" end?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

around 28 if your lucky

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is it like "remedial"?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Or is it extra?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

summer school serves to purposes here in the states; retake a class to get a passing score; take a class so that you dont have to take it during normal school sessions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah, I see...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was going to say, I don't know how much more summer school I can take, lol.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

5 pops out a negative number so someplace between 5 and 10 is a zero; lets go to 7 7 is positive; try 6. 6 is positive; try 5.5 etc ..

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yeah, the quality of questions lately seems to have deteriorated :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We have to get 1.34 3.77, 5.93 approx...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So ur headed for the last...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let's say u get it...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yep, its the only way id be able to get "close" to any roots ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then you go play ninrendo, right..?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nintendo

OpenStudy (amistre64):

super mario brother indeed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right, let's go see what's been posted,,,,

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