Normal and tangent lines at a point.how to solve the tangent,normal line and slope of normal line?someone pls explain the details to me.
tangent: take derivative, plug in x - value, that gives slope. use point slope formula
normal, same thing except this time the slope is the negative reciprocal of the tangent slope
detailed enough? an example might help
can you solve this pls make it a detailed. y=x^3-2x=1 at (1,2)
satellite can you solve this pls make it a detailed. y=x^3-2x=1 at (1,2)
Do you know how to take the derivative dy/dx of your equation?
yup its 3x^2-2 right?
y=x^3-2x+1 at (1,2)
Good. That is the slope of your curve.
yesh. now replace x by 1 to get your slope, use point slope formula to find the line
@phi not to be argumentative but \[y'=3x^2-2\] is not a slope
At each x point, it's different because the curve is curving... it's not a straight line. So at x =1 you can find the slope using the derivative.
The Formula of the Tangent is \[t(x) = f(a)+f'(a)(x-a)\] The normal is ortogonal to the constant, then it may have the opposite slope. Then it is \[t(x) = f(a)-f'(a)(x-a)\]
it is the formula for the slope. the slope is a number. you get it by replacing x by whatever number you have for x
@aoigetsu that is just not right, sorry.
It isn't? Why?
normal line is perpendicular.
at any rate for this problem the derivative is \[3x^2-2\] put x = 1 get \[3-2=1\] so slope is 1
you have the point (1,2) the slope is 1, so you can find the equation of the tangent line via \[y-2=x-1\] \[y=x+1\]
Oh yeah Sorry, bad english Try it out: http://graphsketch.com/ The function is x², the derivate is 2x and the point I choose is x=1 Then the functions that will express this relation using the formulas is f(x) = x² tangent=2x-1 normal = -2x+1
can you pls show how did you get the tangent and normal line?
now for normal line in this case it is easy because your slope is just 1, so perpendicular line has slope -1
ok
you have the point. it is (1,2)
you find the slope by replacing x in the derivative by 1
you get \[3\times 1^2-2=3-2=1\]
so your slope is 1. then you use the point slope formula \[y-y_1=m(x-x_1)\] with \[m=1, x_1=1, y_1=2\]
you get \[y-2=1(x-1)\] \[y-2=x-1\] \[y=x+1\]
this is a lousy example because both the x coordinate and the slope are 1, so you miss some work you would otherwise have to do
but that is your answer with probably more steps than necessary but i wanted to write them all out in any case
clear or no?
am how do you get the tangent?
you mean the tangent line or the slope of the tangent line?
the tangent line
and the normal line?
ok lets start again with a different problem. maybe will make it clearer. different but easy
ok pls
\[f(x)=x^2-4\] at the point (3,5)
notice that (3,5) is on the graph because \[f(3)=3^2-4=5\] so really i could have just said the 3, and you could have come up with the 5
now what is \[f'(x)\]?
am you did not derive it?
\[f(x)=x^2-4\] what is \[f'(x)\]?
we need that one. it is pretty easy in this case yes?
2x
got it.
now i want the slope of the line tangent to the graph of \[y=x^2-4\] at the point (3,5) how do i find it?
i find it by taking \[f'(3)\]
\[f'(x)=2\times 3=6\] and that is the slope i am looking for
so now i want an equation for the line tangent to the graph. i have a point, namely (3,5) and i have a slope, it is 6
so it is straight forward to find the equation for the line. i use the point slope formula and write \[y-5=6(x-3)\]
some algebra gives me \[y-5=6x-18\] \[y=6x-13\] and that is it, that is the line tangent to the graph at (3,5)
that is a worked out procedure for finding the tangent line. now on to the "normal" line. we have done most of the work
the tangent line has slope 6. the normal line is perpendicular, so it has slope \[-\frac{1}{6}\]
and again we use the point slope formula to find the equation
am after the tangent line our instructor get T is it the tangent how do you get it?he then solve for the normal line
i guess its the equation
the tangent equation
ok we have the slope of the tangent, it is 6, so we find the slope of the normal by taking the negative reciprocal. it is \[-\frac{1}{6}\]
the use the point slope formula again \[y-5=-\frac{1}{6}(x-3)\] etc
you do not use the tangent line to find the normal line. you use the point - slope formula with the negative reciprocal of the slope of the tangent line
thank u very much for helping me.
yw
you really helped me a lot
glad to
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