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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Given the following sets, select the statement below that is NOT true. A = {b, l, a, z, e, r}, B = {b, a, l, e}, C = {a, b, l, e}, D = {l, a, b}, E = {a, b, l} E ⊂ C E ⊆ B D ⊆ B B ⊂ C C ⊆ A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah, now we're working with subsets

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup... c is everything in element right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and the c with underline is everything thats NOT in element

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[E \subset C\] Is true only if every element in E is also in C BUT E does not equal C.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[E \subseteq C\] Is true if every element in E is also in C.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if C has 5 elements and e has 2 elements it False right? even if they have some of the "same"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's not about the number of elements

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh boy! here we go again! lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its the same elements in each set right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

New stuff put on the learning cap ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okie dokie.. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok lets start with the easier of the two. \[E \subseteq B\]is true if ALL the items in E are also in B.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Se what are the items in E? Is every one of those also in B?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a,b,l

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are all of those also in B?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then E is a subset of B. \(E \subseteq B\) is True

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(E \subseteq B\) literally means 'E is a subset of B'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Since we are looking for statements that are NOT true, this is not the right answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets look at the first option. \(E \subset C\) Is E a proper subset of C?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the next one is E C underlined B = E=a,b,l B=b,a,l,e

OpenStudy (anonymous):

To be a proper subset 2 things have to be true. E must be a subset of C. E must not equal C.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was going back to the previous one we skipped cause it was tougher.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The very first option on the list.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(E \subset C\) means 'E is a proper subset of C'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

E=a,b,l C=a.b.l.e so yes is it is a subset

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So what do you think?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right but is it a proper one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For E to be a proper subset it has to be a subset, and it cannot be equal.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes cuz they e and c have same elements

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and its not equal cuz c has e in it also

OpenStudy (anonymous):

correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so that would be False...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Therefore since every element in E is also in C AND E does not equal C. E is a proper subset of C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(E \subset C\) is True E is a proper subset of C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok the C mean proper subset right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(\subset\) means proper subset.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea i dont know how to make that on here thats what i ment

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I figured =)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and the line under the c means improper subset right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, improper subsets are usually just called 'subsets' with no distinction. Ok so now you know about subsets and proper subsets. Lets have you take a stab at the next options.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Since we haven't found any false ones yet.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

D ⊆ B D = {l, a, b} B = {b, a, l, e} they both have {a,b,l} so it would be True

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's not about what they both have. It's about is everything in D also in B.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But yes, it's true.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so it has every element in D and in B so it would be True

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Every element in D is also in B so it's true.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know you're probably thinking it right. But you're not saying it right, so I'm just ironing out the ambiguity.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry for being so pedantic. But I like to have things clear

OpenStudy (anonymous):

B ⊂ C B = {b, a, l, e}, C = {a, b, l, e} B and C has every element that in both so this is True

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah, but there is no line underneath

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is B a proper subset of C?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is a subset, I agree, but B = C doesn't it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No they have all the same elements

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right. B = C therefore B is not a proper subset. It is an improper subset

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it wouldnt be a proper subset. cuz one of them would need a differnt element to be a subset

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it would be False

OpenStudy (anonymous):

C would need a different element.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and to be an improper subset it should have the line under the c right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If B had a different element it would still be false because then not every element in B would also be in C and it wouldn't be a subset at all.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right it would have to be \(B \subseteq C\) to be true, or C would have to have an additional element,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so this would be the answer cuz its False

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Correct. B is not a proper subset of C Therefore \(B \subset C\) is False.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ty hon.. i am getting the hang of this type of problems.. You explain it Very good :) and helped me out A LOT! Thank you :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No problem =)

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