Given the following sets, select the statement below that is NOT true. A = {b, l, a, z, e, r}, B = {b, a, l, e}, C = {a, b, l, e}, D = {l, a, b}, E = {a, b, l} E ⊂ C E ⊆ B D ⊆ B B ⊂ C C ⊆ A
Ah, now we're working with subsets
yup... c is everything in element right?
and the c with underline is everything thats NOT in element
right?
\[E \subset C\] Is true only if every element in E is also in C BUT E does not equal C.
\[E \subseteq C\] Is true if every element in E is also in C.
so if C has 5 elements and e has 2 elements it False right? even if they have some of the "same"
No
It's not about the number of elements
oh boy! here we go again! lol
its the same elements in each set right?
New stuff put on the learning cap ;)
okie dokie.. :)
Ok lets start with the easier of the two. \[E \subseteq B\]is true if ALL the items in E are also in B.
Se what are the items in E? Is every one of those also in B?
a,b,l
Are all of those also in B?
yes
Then E is a subset of B. \(E \subseteq B\) is True
\(E \subseteq B\) literally means 'E is a subset of B'
Since we are looking for statements that are NOT true, this is not the right answer.
ok
lets look at the first option. \(E \subset C\) Is E a proper subset of C?
the next one is E C underlined B = E=a,b,l B=b,a,l,e
To be a proper subset 2 things have to be true. E must be a subset of C. E must not equal C.
I was going back to the previous one we skipped cause it was tougher.
The very first option on the list.
\(E \subset C\) means 'E is a proper subset of C'
E=a,b,l C=a.b.l.e so yes is it is a subset
So what do you think?
Right but is it a proper one?
For E to be a proper subset it has to be a subset, and it cannot be equal.
yes cuz they e and c have same elements
and its not equal cuz c has e in it also
correct.
so that would be False...
Therefore since every element in E is also in C AND E does not equal C. E is a proper subset of C
\(E \subset C\) is True E is a proper subset of C
ok the C mean proper subset right?
\(\subset\) means proper subset.
yea i dont know how to make that on here thats what i ment
I figured =)
and the line under the c means improper subset right?
Yeah, improper subsets are usually just called 'subsets' with no distinction. Ok so now you know about subsets and proper subsets. Lets have you take a stab at the next options.
ok
Since we haven't found any false ones yet.
D ⊆ B D = {l, a, b} B = {b, a, l, e} they both have {a,b,l} so it would be True
It's not about what they both have. It's about is everything in D also in B.
But yes, it's true.
ok so it has every element in D and in B so it would be True
Every element in D is also in B so it's true.
I know you're probably thinking it right. But you're not saying it right, so I'm just ironing out the ambiguity.
Sorry for being so pedantic. But I like to have things clear
B ⊂ C B = {b, a, l, e}, C = {a, b, l, e} B and C has every element that in both so this is True
Ah, but there is no line underneath
is B a proper subset of C?
It is a subset, I agree, but B = C doesn't it?
No they have all the same elements
Right. B = C therefore B is not a proper subset. It is an improper subset
so it wouldnt be a proper subset. cuz one of them would need a differnt element to be a subset
so it would be False
C would need a different element.
and to be an improper subset it should have the line under the c right?
If B had a different element it would still be false because then not every element in B would also be in C and it wouldn't be a subset at all.
right it would have to be \(B \subseteq C\) to be true, or C would have to have an additional element,
so this would be the answer cuz its False
Correct. B is not a proper subset of C Therefore \(B \subset C\) is False.
ty hon.. i am getting the hang of this type of problems.. You explain it Very good :) and helped me out A LOT! Thank you :)
No problem =)
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