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OpenStudy (aravindg):

james can u come here??

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Here

OpenStudy (aravindg):

yey

OpenStudy (aravindg):

wl today i hav some physics qusestions

OpenStudy (jamesj):

ok

OpenStudy (aravindg):

start?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Sure ... I'm making coffee now so I'll be good this morning, my morning that is!

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Go ahead. Write the problem here or in a new question.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

A ball is projected so as to clear 2 walls,the first of height a at a distance b from the point of projection and the second of height b and at a distance a from point of projection.Show that the range on the horizontal plane is \[a ^{2}+a timesb+b ^{2}\div a+b\]

OpenStudy (aravindg):

a ^{2}+a timesb+b ^{2}\div (a+b)

OpenStudy (jamesj):

I.e., \[\frac{a^2 +ab + b^2}{a+b}\] What does the question mean by range? How far the ball travels?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ya horizontal distance covered by projectile

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Let x be the horizontal axis and y the vertical height. Then the ball traces a parabola, y = y(x), \[y(x) = px^2 + qx + r\] for some constants p, q and r Let's assume we launch the projectile from the origin. Then y(0) = 0. Hence r = 0. Hence y(x) simplifies to \[ y(x) = px^2 + qx \] Now let us assume the ball just clears both walls. Then \[y(a) = b \ \text{ and } \ y(b) = a\] That is, \[b = a^2.p + a.q \ \text{ and } \ a = b^2.p + b.q \] This is a system of two simultaneous equations in p and q. Solve them for p and q in terms of a and b. Then you will have an expression for y(x) only in terms of x, and a and b.

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

the range is the projection onto the horizontal x-axis

OpenStudy (jamesj):

The distance covered by the projectile will be the non-trivial solution of y(x) = 0.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

oh i am only high school i cant use the equation of parabola

OpenStudy (aravindg):

is thr othr method?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Yes you can.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

plz tel

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

learn now

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Haven't you discussed how in general ideal projectiles trace out parabolas?

OpenStudy (jamesj):

If not, let just prove it very quickly. It's easy.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

oh i needs to use equation of projectile and solve

OpenStudy (jamesj):

Suppose a projectile is launch with speed v0 at an angle theta to the horizontal Then resolving in x, y directions, the v0 in the x direction v0x = v cos theta and in the y-direction, v0y = v sin theta Then vy(t) = v0y - gt vx(t) = v0x ....

OpenStudy (jamesj):

What equations do you have then?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

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