Hey guys i am working on subset theory and stuff like that. I need some help on this one. If A={1,2,34,...} and B={2,4,6,8,...}, then What does A-B equal
I assume you mean A = {1, 2, 3, 4, ... }, yes? In any case, A - B means the set of the elements of A which are not elements of B. So what are the numbers or elements in A that are not elements of B?
yes i mean that, so the answer would be 1 and 3 right?
{1, 3, 5, 7, 9, ....} , yes
so odd numbers
Right
Why the hell doesn't my teacher teach me it like this lol they try to make it sooo confusing. lol
Probably because I am a mathematician and your teacher most probably is not. :-)
Ok here is another one from my hw. What is n(A) for the set A={0,{1,2},4}.
What's the definition of n(A), the number of elements of the set A?
yes
So write down for me, one element per line, the members of the set A
0 ...
well i don't understand why 1,2 have like their own parethisis
because it's a set The members of the set are 0 {1, 2} 4 So the members are a mix of numbers -- 0 and 4 -- and of a set -- { 1, 2}
because a set need not have the same sort of thing in it always as members.
in any case, what then is n(A) for this A = {0, {1, 2}, 4}
ooooo ok ok
sooo the answer is 3
wow i definently tried to make that too hard
correct, 3.
damn man u a good mathmatician lol like you teach it in a way i understand
thanks iight the next one i have to like draw a venn diagram for you. Using set theory notation describe the shaded region provided in the Venn Diagram...
Meh ... that's harder to see. You might have to figure that one out by yourself.
yeah your right its too hard to draw
ok this one is there like short cut to figure out how many proper subsets does the set F={0,1,2,3....,10} have?
Yes. Each element is either in the subset or it is not in the subset. Consider the set G = {a, b} Then the subsets are - the empty set (neither a or be in the subset) - {a} (a in, b out) - {a, b} (a in, b in) - {b} (a out, b in) So for each element there are two possibilities. Hence for G there were 2 x 2 = 2^2 possibilities; i.e., 4 subsets. Now for your set there are 11 members, so there are 2 x 2 x .... subsets. What is this exactly?
2,048
if i just keep multiplying
That was 2^11 and you're exactly right, 2^11 = 2,048 So there's a general rule here. Suppose A is a set with n(A) members, a finite number. Then the number of subsets of A is \[2^{n(A)}\]
ooooo ok ok gotcha thanks man i really appreciate it
sure. 'good answer' appreciated.
i should of clicked that like 10000 times lol
Ok what about, For any set A, A ∪ ∅=______ and A ∩ ∅=______
the _______ is the line where the answer is supposed to gothats how it looks in my book
Well, what's the definition of those things and what do you think the answers are?
For any set A, A Union a empty set = i don't know, lol i mean i dono if i am looking for a number or letter or what
What does A union B mean?
elemnts are either in A or B or in both
Yes, so A union empty set is
oelements are either A or an empty set or both
...which is what? What elements are in the empty set?
the ones not in A lol i dono
If you're stuck with this sort of thing, take a concrete example to help you figure it out. So let's take B = {1,2,3,4,5} What is the union of B with the empty set?
By the way, the elements of the empty set are .... nothing, because it's the empty set, it has no elements.
well a empty set wouldn't be 1,2,3,4,5
No so for this particular set B\[B \cup \emptyset = ??\]
x:x is not 1,2,3,4,5
No. Back to defintions
Let X = {1, 2, 3} and Y = {3, 4, 5}. What is \[X \cup Y\]?
so x u y is 1 and 3
numbers that are in either x y or both
No X union Y is the set whose members are in X or Y. So \[X \cup Y = \{ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 \}\]
oooo ok
So now suppose Y = empty set = {}. What is \[X \cup Y = X \cup \emptyset = ???\]
Remember X = {1, 2, ,3}
Are you stuck?
I'm going to assume you are. So let me ask you this. If X = {1,2,3} and Y = {4} what is the union of X and Y?
Ok ... bye.
my bad man cpu died and i couldn't find the charger
so the union of x and y is 1,2,3,4 correct?
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