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OpenStudy (anonymous):

check this out: [x+x+x+...(x times)]=x^2 differentiate both sides with respect to x [1+1+1+............+1]=2x x=2x 1=2 ??? can anyone explain to me what the **** is this? check this out: [x+x+x+...(x times)]=x^2 differentiate both sides with respect to x [1+1+1+............+1]=2x x=2x 1=2 ??? can anyone explain to me what the **** is this? @Mathematics

OpenStudy (zarkon):

can you show me how to write x out x times?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

continue to add x for x times

OpenStudy (zarkon):

?...show me how to do that if \[x=\pi\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\Pi +\Pi +\Pi +\](\[\Pi -\]3)*\[\Pi\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

[1+1+1+............+1]=2x that doesnt lead to this x=2x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and why is that??????????

OpenStudy (zarkon):

lol

OpenStudy (amistre64):

becasue when you do real math, you use real math rules instead if made up ones ....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

'lol' dosnt explain anything

OpenStudy (amistre64):

thought george was loling :)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

what you wrote is nonsense george. you want x+x+x +...+x but then you don't write pi like that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

chicken, whale have u completely lost it?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

x^2 mean x*x and there is no finite way to write that with [1+1+1+...+1] any more than you can write infinity as [1+1+1+....+1]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i completely lost it along time ago, this is just the aftermath ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are prettymuch before'math'

OpenStudy (amistre64):

to equate x^2 as [x+x+x+.... (xtimes)] has no mathematical meaning to it in order to take a derivative of it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no actually there is nothing wrong in equating [x+x+x+...(x times)] to x^2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

becasue we want to invent our own postulates and propositions?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

apparently non of u are as good as me at math

OpenStudy (amistre64):

apparently not :) but then what would that matter since you have no answers to your question to begin with lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which postulate ?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the one where you claime that [x+x+x+ ...(xtimes)] = x^2 , or do you not recall your own statements?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

postulate: A thing suggested or assumed as true as the basis for reasoning, discussion, or belief.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have my answers i just wanted to test the knowledge of the world (which i know now is not much)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

then long live socrates ...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know what a postulate is

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you do now lol

OpenStudy (zarkon):

clearly what you have written above george is wrong since it leads to a contradiction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

long live 0.5*x^2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

indeed, if [x+x+x+ ...(xtimes)] = x^2 were to mean anything; then to take the derivative of the whole would amount to: x+x = 2x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

on taking derivative lhs=x and rhs=2x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

becasue .... you wave your hands and it is so?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and zarkon im asking u whats wrong?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the derivative of the lhs \(\ne\) x

OpenStudy (zarkon):

I already pointed that out...and so has amistre

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

OpenStudy (amistre64):

because the left hand side means nothing.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats bcoz u dont know math

OpenStudy (amistre64):

chicken = beached whale.... how is this possible????????????????????? lol

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its true simply because you postulate it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A Mr. is again coming with his favorite chicken and whale

OpenStudy (amistre64):

its just as valid as yours ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my what??????

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[x^2=x\cdot x=x+x+\cdots+x +(x-\lfloor x\rfloor)\cdot x\] where there are\[\lfloor x\rfloor, x's\] added together. differentiate this :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then anyone could postulate stuff( )

OpenStudy (amistre64):

anyone is :) where is your proof that [x+x+x+...(xtimes)] = x^2, other then your repeated declaration of it as a fact?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no i dont need a proof since it is a 'postulate'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

zarkon u r very funny just kidding

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ok, if that is indeed your postulate; then prove that the derivative of the left side is "x" then. Or do you want to just make up a whole string of postulates

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats already proved. any loser knows that 1 added x times is x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

thats not a proof the the left side derives to x.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

since you say its not?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

read that wrong lol

OpenStudy (amistre64):

your the one making the claim, not me.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you claim the left side derives to x, wheres your proof?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

each term is x. and derivative of each x is 1

OpenStudy (zarkon):

ok...so far you are wrong...but continue ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

where are you guys from?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

which way do you wanna define it? [x+x+x+....] or [x+x+x+....(xtimes)] ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

[x+x+x+...(x times)]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

[x+x+x+...] is infinite [x+x+x+...(xtimes)] is finite they dont mean the same thing so which definition do you claim you wanna ues?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its staring at ya

OpenStudy (amistre64):

since you wanna use [x+x+x+...(xtimes)] then take its derivative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

[1+1+1+...(x 1s)]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=x

OpenStudy (amistre64):

xtimes is product rule .... try again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1*derivative of x +x*derivative of 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=1*1+x*0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=1

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lets try this: x^2 = x*x x = (1+n), where n = the number of times needed to satisfy x x^2 = (1+n)*(1+n) x^2 = 1 + 2n + n^2 the derivative of each side is then: 2x = 2 + 2n and since x=1+n 2(1+n) = 2+2n 2+2n = 2+2n

OpenStudy (amistre64):

your definition of [x+x+x+...(xtimes)] is meaningless since it doesnt convey any meanigful information to use

OpenStudy (amistre64):

and in that it is meaningless, to ascribe to it any derivative, much less "x" as its derivative is just as pointless

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