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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need help once again :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nice. what's your favorite way to solve systems - do you use substitution, elimination, graphing, tables, matrices, etc, any method will work...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What does nontrvial mean? my textbook doesnt explain

OpenStudy (anonymous):

don't worry about it - it basically means don't quit with x=0 y=0 as your only solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but that is what i am getting LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why : what was your first step?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well i subsituted

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh maybe i shld use a matrix lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont see any -lambda y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you doing\[(\lambda-1)x + 2y = 0\]\[x + \lambda y = 0\]Solve for x on that second one and stick it into the first one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh man sorry i was looking ta the wrong one sorry abt that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so whaddya do next?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

expand everything out? divide everybody by y?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then u r left with y =0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, you have stuff * y + other stuff * y = 0, and you divide by y so you can make y go away

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i see what u did lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u r left with stuff + other stuff = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh but i am getting left with an ugly number

OpenStudy (anonymous):

U R BACK :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got -L*(1-L)-2 = 0 or so

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is +2 so when u bring it over to the other side it is -

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then u cant take the sqrt of a negative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or rather (1-L)*(-L)+2 = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we can find the roots

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i get what to do now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yah that's no matter, if you were staring at \[x^2−9x=−8\] you wouldn't take the square root, since x=1 and x=8 work fine

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so L is -2 and 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya, if i were your teacher i'd ask you to put those two values into the original system, to make sure that you get a homogeneous system with "non-trivial solutions"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well then i guess i will do that LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

also i bet (L-2)=0 actually means L = +2 etc.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

uh oh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when i did the matrix the last row became all zeros

OpenStudy (anonymous):

meaning that it is trivial :(((

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How can x and y not equal 0???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i think it worked out LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

homogeneous not same as trivial ... as long as the matrix isn't entirely zeros you should get some nice answers, like x = 20 y = -10 for L = 2 I think.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

huh? That didnt happen LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

L = 2 giving \[x+2y=0\] as the answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

l=-2 btw

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[\lambda=-1,2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y am i getting that L=1,-2?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

compute \[\det\left(\left[\begin{matrix}\lambda-1 & 2 \\ 1 & \lambda\end{matrix}\right]\right)\] set equal to zero and solve

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya i got that thanks. Did s/t wrong with my arithmetic

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[(\lambda-1)\lambda-2=0\] \[\lambda^2-\lambda-2=0\] \[(\lambda+1)(\lambda-2)=0\] \[\lambda=-1,2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thanks zarkon

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks broken fixer

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