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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[y''-yy'=0\]
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
the equation is x-absent
let \[y'=p\]\[y''=pp'\]
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[pp'-yp=0\]\[p'-y=0\]\[dp/dx=y\]
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
whats your question?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
what do i do next
i am tring to solve for y
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
y=y(x)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
is p a constant?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
p=dy/dx
OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'=p
=>y''=0
OpenStudy (anonymous):
if p is constant
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
y''=pp'
OpenStudy (anonymous):
p must be a const just check it out!
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
that is just the trivial solution
OpenStudy (anonymous):
k
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
the other solution has tangent of something in it
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'=p
y''=p'
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ur solving for y right
OpenStudy (anonymous):
?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
i am solving for y(x) yes.
y'=p
however
y''=pp'
OpenStudy (anonymous):
then you should integrate this equation y'=p
=> y(x)=px+c
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
y(x)=y'x+c
OpenStudy (anonymous):
err p is a function of x dhashni
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
I am tring to show that the solution is \[y=c\] or \[y=atan({ax \over 2}+b)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
rather \[y = a \tan(\frac{ax}{2}+b)\]
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
um...
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
i dont know
OpenStudy (anonymous):
aha - it goes tan -> sec^2 -> tan*sec^2 as you differentiate
OpenStudy (anonymous):
wait why do you think that y'' = pp' rather y'' = yy'
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[y'' - yy' = 0\]\[y' - \frac{1}{2}y^2 = c\]\[y' = \frac{1}{2}y^2 + c\]\[\frac{y'}{\frac{1}{2}y^2 + c} = 1\]\[\frac{2y'}{y^2 + 2c} = 1\]\[\sqrt{\frac{2}{c}}\arctan(\frac{y}{\sqrt{2c}})=x+c_2\]\[y = \sqrt{2c} \tan(\sqrt{\frac{c}{2}}(x+c_2))\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
the two hard steps are where you integrate both sides with respect to x
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
hey thankyou very much
OpenStudy (anonymous):
nps :)
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
i can not see what you did to
\[y''-yy'=0\]to get
\[y'-{1 \over 2}y^2=c\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
that's the step where i integrated. the integral of y'' is y'+c and the integral of 2yy' is y^2+c (chain rule)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\int (y''-yy') dx = \int 0 \space dx\]
\[\int \frac{d}{dx}(y') dx - \frac{1}{2} \int 2y\frac{dy}{dx} dx = 0 + C_3\]
\[ y' + C_1 - \frac{1}{2}y^2 - C_2 = C_3 \]
\[ y' - \frac{1}{2}y^2 = (-C_1+C_2+C_3) \]
\[ y' - \frac{1}{2}y^2 = c \]
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
that is it
thank you Broken Fixer