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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[y''-yy'=0\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

the equation is x-absent let \[y'=p\]\[y''=pp'\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[pp'-yp=0\]\[p'-y=0\]\[dp/dx=y\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whats your question?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

what do i do next i am tring to solve for y

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

y=y(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is p a constant?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

p=dy/dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y'=p =>y''=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if p is constant

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

y''=pp'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

p must be a const just check it out!

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

that is just the trivial solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

the other solution has tangent of something in it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y'=p y''=p'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ur solving for y right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

i am solving for y(x) yes. y'=p however y''=pp'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then you should integrate this equation y'=p => y(x)=px+c

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

y(x)=y'x+c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

err p is a function of x dhashni

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

I am tring to show that the solution is \[y=c\] or \[y=atan({ax \over 2}+b)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

rather \[y = a \tan(\frac{ax}{2}+b)\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

um...

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

i dont know

OpenStudy (anonymous):

aha - it goes tan -> sec^2 -> tan*sec^2 as you differentiate

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait why do you think that y'' = pp' rather y'' = yy'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[y'' - yy' = 0\]\[y' - \frac{1}{2}y^2 = c\]\[y' = \frac{1}{2}y^2 + c\]\[\frac{y'}{\frac{1}{2}y^2 + c} = 1\]\[\frac{2y'}{y^2 + 2c} = 1\]\[\sqrt{\frac{2}{c}}\arctan(\frac{y}{\sqrt{2c}})=x+c_2\]\[y = \sqrt{2c} \tan(\sqrt{\frac{c}{2}}(x+c_2))\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the two hard steps are where you integrate both sides with respect to x

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

hey thankyou very much

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nps :)

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

i can not see what you did to \[y''-yy'=0\]to get \[y'-{1 \over 2}y^2=c\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's the step where i integrated. the integral of y'' is y'+c and the integral of 2yy' is y^2+c (chain rule)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int (y''-yy') dx = \int 0 \space dx\] \[\int \frac{d}{dx}(y') dx - \frac{1}{2} \int 2y\frac{dy}{dx} dx = 0 + C_3\] \[ y' + C_1 - \frac{1}{2}y^2 - C_2 = C_3 \] \[ y' - \frac{1}{2}y^2 = (-C_1+C_2+C_3) \] \[ y' - \frac{1}{2}y^2 = c \]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

that is it thank you Broken Fixer

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