{x | x E N and x < 8} Express set using the roster method
{1,2,3,4,5,6,7}
8 9 10 11 tweee..eee...e..e..eee.eee.eeellve
i forget what that was off of
Sesame Street... :P
the trick here is that N is not well defined set; some include 0 and others do not
the E is a symbol that looks like and E just can't type it
e means element in this case
x e N
ok
Usually for mathematical reasoning classes, 0 is not included in N
element of a set
or else its a backwards E that means every
This question is complete gobbly gook to me
write out the number that are elements of the Natural set that are less than 8
what does the xlx mean
x | x e N x such that x is an element of N
so x is part of N and less than 8
yes
the "and" having a specific math meaning
\[{x|x \in \mathbb{N} and x<8}\]
ok i think lol
the latex seems to be crowding up lately
I've noticed that too.
yes it looks like that
I wish I understood this stuff better
notation is just another language, you have to practice it to get better :)
its simply saying; write all the natural numbers that are less than 8
I need a symbol chart/book for dummies
ty
It's really cool once you get it down... makes note taking so much faster without having to write all that stuff out.
right
Ready for more?
I can do 1 maybe 2 more before I have to go.
ok ty so much
\[5 \epsilon \left\{ 2,4,6,...,20? \right\} this is false? \right\]
5 E (2,4,6,...,20) false set right
this is a t/f and you are asking if 5 is in that set? if that's the case, you are right... that is false.
36\[\notin\] 1,2,3,4,5... 40 is true correct
Well thank you I at least understand the set thing a little woo they are counting by 1's so 36 is included in the set
false because of the stupid E thing errrr
I think I understand the straight forward ones thank you so much
right it is flase because you have the "is not an element" symbol and you are welcome. I'm glad I could help.
You have and awesome night
thanks :) you too!
Last one before I go :P and just a hint... is 21 less than 21?
no
then 21 is not in the set and the "not in the set" operator means this statement is true :)
see with just the numbers \i can read and understand it it's the other stuff that screw's me up
x is in the set of N; x is less than 21
but all of it is not and element
21 E(crossed out) )x E N; x<21)
\[21 \notin \left\{ x|x \in \mathbb{N}/ and/ x < 21 \right\}\]
that is what you are looking for right?
yeah that is close only the one X at the beginning, does ; equal and
I have to determine if it is true or false so x is part of the set of N and x is less than 21
ok... basically the same though, so your set is {1,2,3,...,20} 21 is not in that set and the statement is that 21 is not in the given set.
because at the end it is less than 21?
right and since you are dealing with Natural numbers, as defined, the set only goes up to 20.
ok ty very much my brain is now bleeding lol
I hear ya. I have some homework to hemorrage by when I get home myself lol So I'm off. Take care and good luck.
And thanks for taking the time to try and explain these things to me, ever need help with English I can help :) Math NO nite
nite :)
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