I have a question...
\[\begin{array}{l}{\LARGE \log _x}\LARGE (5{x^2})\log _5^2(x) = 1\\{\rm{Attempted:}}\\{\rm{Step 1:\;\;\;\;\;\; }}\LARGE {\log _x}(5) + {\log _x}{(x)^2} \cdot {\log _5}(x) \cdot {\log _5}(x) = 1\\{\rm{Step 2: \quad }}\LARGE {\log _x}(5) + 2 \cdot {\log _x}(x) \cdot {\log _5}(x) \cdot {\log _5}(x) = 1\\{\rm{Step 3: \quad }}\LARGE {\log _x}(5) + 2 \cdot 1 \cdot {\log _5}(x) \cdot {\log _5}(x) = 1\\\end{array}\] or maybe we should just let it: \[\Large \log _5^2(x)\] I'm pretty sure I've broken some rules till here... Multiple choices are: \[\LARGE a) \quad \quad x=\sqrt5 \quad ,\quad x=\frac15\]\[\LARGE b) \quad x=\frac12 \quad ,\quad x=\sqrt2 \]\[\LARGE c) \quad x=-\frac12 \quad ,\quad x=\sqrt2 \]\[\LARGE d) \quad x=-\sqrt5 \quad ,\quad x=-\frac15\] as much as I see, ti's going be a a quadratic equation... but how do I continue ?
O_O Kershnik have a question..
ehhehehehehe lol
:)
what was that?? solve for x??
well I guess it is ... in my book it only says : The solutions of this logarithm equation are... and there are multiple choices :(
substitute one by one each choice and see at which one your equation is satisfied.
eeehh.. nice one @Shayaan_Mustafa But what if in the future there are no multiple choices given ? O_O lol ;) thanks for the advice :P
then you have to solve it. hehehe.. lolololololololololoooolololololol....
hahahaa. ;)
thats it ... you don't have to expand it ... and make it ugly. And your attempted step 1 is wrong should have been: \( \ (log_x(5)+log_x(x^2))⋅log_5(x)⋅log_5(x)=1 \)
huh.. ? ok, Let me try, let's see how far can I go, (I'll be stuck on the second step I'm sure) LOL haha...
Here's the photo if you would like to see it :)
I told you I'll be stuck on the second step :( ... Even if we leave it in bracket like this: \[\LARGE [\log_x(5)+2]\cdot \log _5x \cdot \log_5 x-1=0\] we still have logs with different bases how do I multiply now ?
multiply them
I don't know how :$
@experimentX do you mind if I call anyone? :$
I don't mind ... OS crashed
auff... I know your pain. Mine one crashes too :F
\(\huge \log_5x = \frac{\log_ax}{\log_a5}\) you need to use this property.
I will make a little simpler.
\[\LARGE \log_ab=\frac{1}{\log_ba}\] is this a rule, or my brain is getting old ! ?
experimentX is right.
It is i guess ... wow I didn't know that.
does it help in this case.. ? I thought about checking algebra cheat sheet (I always do), but there's not much about logarithms :S... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftutorial.math.lamar.edu%2Fpdf%2FAlgebra_Cheat_Sheet.pdf&ei=JfSFT8-cF8XAtAb6pOC7Bg&usg=AFQjCNGNmumjdKSokx8p6h5l0hy4UVinmA&sig2=bGGZ6kPYD-WDeUsFEmEWVw
experiment... If I use your rule, which number will be instead of "a" ? :( I still don't get how should I apply that rule :(
@JamesJ @amistre64 @dumbcow @Diyadiya @radar I need help please...
It doesn't matter which no you choose,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/math/0/3/a/03a7c4f8461ee26493b9cf547a82e390.png
get everyone speaking in the same log for starters is my first thought
after you do that ... you will have quadratic equation in \( \large \log_5x\) ... i guess it would be easy then.
I think I just found a solution... Let me type it :F..
\[\log _x (5{x^2})\log _5^2(x) = 1 \] \[\log _x (5{x^2}) = \frac{1}{\log _5^2(x)} \] \[\frac{ln(5{x^2})}{ln(x)} = \frac{1}{\frac{ln^2(x)}{ln^2(5)}} \] \[\frac{ln(5{x^2})}{ln(x)} = \frac{ln^2(5)}{ln^2(x)} \] \[ln(5{x^2}) = \frac{ln^2(5)}{ln(x)} \] so far is what ive got but this thing is terrible on IE
\[\LARGE \log_x(5x^2)\cdot \log_5^2x=1\] \[\LARGE (\log_x5+\log _xx^2 )\cdot \log_5^2x=1\] \[\LARGE (\log_x5+2 )\cdot \log_5^2x=1\] \[\LARGE \left(\frac{1}{\log_5x }+2 \right)\cdot \log_5^2x=1\] \[\LARGE \left(\frac{1}{\log_5x }+\frac{2\cdot \log_5x}{\log_5x } \right)\cdot \log_5x \cdot \log_5x=1\] \[\LARGE \left(\frac{2 \cdot \log_5x+1 }{\log_5x } \right)\cdot \log_5x \cdot \log_5x=1\] \[\LARGE \left(2 \cdot \log_5x+1 \right)\cdot \log_5x=1\] so far is it good?
let \( \huge \log_5x = y\)
ok... let me see what I can do :)
\[2ln(5x) \to \ 2ln(5)+2ln(x)\] \[ln(x)(2ln(5)+2ln(x)) = ln^2(5)\] \[2ln(5)ln(x)+2ln^2(x) = ln^2(5)\] \[2ln^2(x)+2ln(5)ln(x)- ln^2(5)=0\] ln(x) = r; and say ln^2(5) is some arbitrary constant to clean it up a little \[2r^2+2r- K=0\]
lost the ln(5) in the middle during typing :)
@amistre64 @experimentX I do really really appreciate your help ... I'm typing my version :F lol let's see how many rules I've broken so far :P lol
\[\LARGE (2y+1)\cdot y=1\] \[\LARGE 2y^2+y-1=0\] \[\LARGE x_{1/2}=\frac{-1\pm\sqrt{1+8}}{4}\] \[\LARGE x_{1}=\frac{-1-3}{4}=-1\] \[\LARGE x_{1/2}=\frac{-1+3}{4}=\frac12\] now let's substitute back: \[\LARGE \log_5x=-1\] \[\LARGE x_1=\frac15 \] \[\LARGE \log_5x=\frac12\] \[\LARGE x_2=\sqrt5\] I think option A must be... (If I'm not wrong :( )
it is ...
huh... I feel like I just took off a sack of sand off my back LOL.... thank you everyone for the help, I hope I can help you out one day, even if that day never comes, I won't forget these ones ;) thank you
I'm closing it. Bye bye :)
sure np
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