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OpenStudy (anonymous):

@callisto, can you check my answer?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok so do you remember question a?

OpenStudy (callisto):

Can you post it again?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is what we did to solve it: first, I have to factor out the quadratic equation by decomposition method 6x^2 + 3x - 2x -1 = 0 (6x^2 + 3x) (-2x -1) 3x(2x + 1) -1(2x+1)=0 (3x-1)(2x+1)=0 Then,we write 2 equations (2cosx + 1) = 0-----(1) OR (3cosx - 1) =0-----(2) We isolate the trig function, Which gives you cosx = -1/2 and cosx = 1/3. for equation 1, the answer is 120degrees and 240degrees (we can look at unit circle) For equation 2, we were not sure how you got 70.52878 or 289.4712

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is my procedure correct for equation 1? and can you show me how to solve equation 2?

OpenStudy (callisto):

Yup, question 1 should be correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

equation 1 is correct? How do we solve the equation 2 to get what you got?

OpenStudy (callisto):

For question (2), you need to change the sin into cos first. Can you try it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait, before we move on to the next one, Can you show me how yo get equation 2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its just that i need to be able to explain every step of the procedure

OpenStudy (callisto):

you mean (b) right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, If you see in my answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

There are 2 equations, equation 1 and equation 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

equation 1 = 120degrees and 240degrees equation 2 = 70.52878 or 289.4712 I know how to get equation 1, But i have trouble remembering how to solve equation 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So i wanted to know how you solved (3cosx - 1) and got 70.52878 or 289.4712

OpenStudy (callisto):

Okay (3cosx - 1) =0 Both sides add 1 and you'll get (3cosx - 1) +1=0 +1 3cosx =1 Got this part?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (callisto):

Divide both sides by 3, what would you get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I would get cos(x) = 1/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or if its decimal, .3333

OpenStudy (callisto):

As the normal practice, you would use the arc cos to find the angle, what would you get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would get 70degrees

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How about the 289?

OpenStudy (callisto):

There are 2 quadrants which gives positive value for cos, what are they?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

they are q4 and q1

OpenStudy (callisto):

Yup, for the angle in quadrant I =x, the following would give you the same absolute value to a trigo ratio angle in quadrant II = 180 -x angle in quadrant III = 180 +x angle in quadrant IV =360 -x So, can you work out the angle in quadrant IV?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

360 - 70. Okkk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that makes sense:). Thank you for explaining that to me:) But my procedure and answer are correct right?

OpenStudy (callisto):

Yes

OpenStudy (callisto):

Just a minute, sorry!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

perect!:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sure, I will wait.

OpenStudy (callisto):

Perhaps we can start (b) now?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Welcome Back:) Yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When you said, change sin into cos, do you mean 1st pythagorean identity?

OpenStudy (callisto):

1- sin^2 x =?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cos² x

OpenStudy (callisto):

Cool~ can you rewrite the equation now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so is it cos² x = cos x?

OpenStudy (callisto):

nope!!!! Expressing the equation in only one kind of ratio can help you solve the equation easier. Otherwise, it's hard to solve

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 2cos² x = 0. is this what you mean?

OpenStudy (callisto):

Nope o.o

OpenStudy (callisto):

Can we start again? suddenly, I've found a faster method :S

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That would be great:)

OpenStudy (callisto):

So, consider the LHS only, take out the common factor

OpenStudy (callisto):

What would you get now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is it sin²(x)

OpenStudy (callisto):

nope... \[2-2 sin^2 x =cosx\]\[2(1-sin^2x)=cosx\] Understand this part? BTW, what's the time there?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its 3am

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My brain is not fully cunctional right now, But I have to finish my hw

OpenStudy (callisto):

Hmm.. let's finish it earlier so that you can sleep earlier!!! Do you understand the step I wrote?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Good Idea:). Yes

OpenStudy (callisto):

so, 1-sin^2 x would give you cos^2 x, agree?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Agreed

OpenStudy (callisto):

so, replace 1-sin^2 x by cos^2 x in the equation. This gives \[2(cos^2x) = cosx\], got it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (callisto):

so, both sides minus cosx, and you'll get \[2cos^2x-cosx=0\] Understand?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes.

OpenStudy (callisto):

Take out the common factor on the LHS, what would you get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is it 2cosx cosx?

OpenStudy (callisto):

Nope.... \[2cos^2x -cosx=0\]\[cosx(2cosx-1)=0\] Understand? (it's actually doing factorization)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, I thought you left:)

OpenStudy (callisto):

Sorry, was switching the PC with my sister :( actually... she forced me..)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh. lol

OpenStudy (callisto):

So, cosx=0 or (2cosx−1)=0 understand?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, understand

OpenStudy (callisto):

Can you solve it from here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k. one sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so is cos(x) = 0 = 1/2 and (2cosx-1) = 0 = 1/3?

OpenStudy (callisto):

Nope!!!!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

one second

OpenStudy (callisto):

cos(x) = 0 ----(1) (2cosx-1) = 0 ----(2) First solve (1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, so is cos x = pi/2? if so, then is equation 1 = 90degrees?

OpenStudy (callisto):

90 degree is one of the values, can you work out the other one? Hint: use 360-x to figure it out :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 360-90? 270?

OpenStudy (callisto):

yes!~~~~

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha. I am EXTRA slow when I am tired arent I?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My brain is not even working with me. It is just blank. hahaha. sorry I took forever

OpenStudy (callisto):

No sorry~~~

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks you so much for your help:)

OpenStudy (callisto):

I was having a serious headache too~ but it's fine now~ So, do hw, go to sleep and it'll be fine :)

OpenStudy (callisto):

Now,solve (2cosx-1) = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait, isnt the the same as equation 1?

OpenStudy (callisto):

lol, yes :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If i get pi/2, then that means I get teh exact same as equation 1

OpenStudy (callisto):

in question (a), i think

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so for equation 2, same thing 90degrees and 270degrees

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahaha. While I had to solve and all, you already knew from the beginning didnt you? :)

OpenStudy (callisto):

:P

OpenStudy (callisto):

What do you get for second question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which second question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

isnt the answer for second question 90degrees and 270degrees for both equations (1, 2)

OpenStudy (callisto):

2- 2sin^2 x = cosx Can you answer the question in full workings as well as the answer?

OpenStudy (callisto):

Not really, for equation (1), yes, (2), no

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