@callisto, can you check my answer?
Ok so do you remember question a?
Can you post it again?
This is what we did to solve it: first, I have to factor out the quadratic equation by decomposition method 6x^2 + 3x - 2x -1 = 0 (6x^2 + 3x) (-2x -1) 3x(2x + 1) -1(2x+1)=0 (3x-1)(2x+1)=0 Then,we write 2 equations (2cosx + 1) = 0-----(1) OR (3cosx - 1) =0-----(2) We isolate the trig function, Which gives you cosx = -1/2 and cosx = 1/3. for equation 1, the answer is 120degrees and 240degrees (we can look at unit circle) For equation 2, we were not sure how you got 70.52878 or 289.4712
Is my procedure correct for equation 1? and can you show me how to solve equation 2?
Yup, question 1 should be correct
equation 1 is correct? How do we solve the equation 2 to get what you got?
For question (2), you need to change the sin into cos first. Can you try it?
Wait, before we move on to the next one, Can you show me how yo get equation 2?
Its just that i need to be able to explain every step of the procedure
you mean (b) right?
no, If you see in my answer
There are 2 equations, equation 1 and equation 2
equation 1 = 120degrees and 240degrees equation 2 = 70.52878 or 289.4712 I know how to get equation 1, But i have trouble remembering how to solve equation 2
So i wanted to know how you solved (3cosx - 1) and got 70.52878 or 289.4712
Okay (3cosx - 1) =0 Both sides add 1 and you'll get (3cosx - 1) +1=0 +1 3cosx =1 Got this part?
Yes
Divide both sides by 3, what would you get?
I would get cos(x) = 1/3
or if its decimal, .3333
As the normal practice, you would use the arc cos to find the angle, what would you get?
i would get 70degrees
How about the 289?
There are 2 quadrants which gives positive value for cos, what are they?
they are q4 and q1
Yup, for the angle in quadrant I =x, the following would give you the same absolute value to a trigo ratio angle in quadrant II = 180 -x angle in quadrant III = 180 +x angle in quadrant IV =360 -x So, can you work out the angle in quadrant IV?
360 - 70. Okkk
that makes sense:). Thank you for explaining that to me:) But my procedure and answer are correct right?
Yes
Just a minute, sorry!!
perect!:)
Sure, I will wait.
Perhaps we can start (b) now?!
Welcome Back:) Yes
When you said, change sin into cos, do you mean 1st pythagorean identity?
1- sin^2 x =?
cos² x
Cool~ can you rewrite the equation now?
so is it cos² x = cos x?
nope!!!! Expressing the equation in only one kind of ratio can help you solve the equation easier. Otherwise, it's hard to solve
so 2cos² x = 0. is this what you mean?
Nope o.o
Can we start again? suddenly, I've found a faster method :S
That would be great:)
So, consider the LHS only, take out the common factor
What would you get now?
Is it sin²(x)
nope... \[2-2 sin^2 x =cosx\]\[2(1-sin^2x)=cosx\] Understand this part? BTW, what's the time there?
its 3am
My brain is not fully cunctional right now, But I have to finish my hw
Hmm.. let's finish it earlier so that you can sleep earlier!!! Do you understand the step I wrote?
Good Idea:). Yes
so, 1-sin^2 x would give you cos^2 x, agree?
Agreed
so, replace 1-sin^2 x by cos^2 x in the equation. This gives \[2(cos^2x) = cosx\], got it?
Yes
so, both sides minus cosx, and you'll get \[2cos^2x-cosx=0\] Understand?
Yes.
Take out the common factor on the LHS, what would you get?
Is it 2cosx cosx?
Nope.... \[2cos^2x -cosx=0\]\[cosx(2cosx-1)=0\] Understand? (it's actually doing factorization)
Oh ok
Oh, I thought you left:)
Sorry, was switching the PC with my sister :( actually... she forced me..)
oh. lol
So, cosx=0 or (2cosx−1)=0 understand?
Yes, understand
Can you solve it from here?
k. one sec
so is cos(x) = 0 = 1/2 and (2cosx-1) = 0 = 1/3?
Nope!!!!!!!
one second
cos(x) = 0 ----(1) (2cosx-1) = 0 ----(2) First solve (1)
ok
ok, so is cos x = pi/2? if so, then is equation 1 = 90degrees?
90 degree is one of the values, can you work out the other one? Hint: use 360-x to figure it out :)
so 360-90? 270?
yes!~~~~
haha. I am EXTRA slow when I am tired arent I?
My brain is not even working with me. It is just blank. hahaha. sorry I took forever
No sorry~~~
Thanks you so much for your help:)
I was having a serious headache too~ but it's fine now~ So, do hw, go to sleep and it'll be fine :)
Now,solve (2cosx-1) = 0
ok
Wait, isnt the the same as equation 1?
lol, yes :P
If i get pi/2, then that means I get teh exact same as equation 1
in question (a), i think
so for equation 2, same thing 90degrees and 270degrees
hahaha. While I had to solve and all, you already knew from the beginning didnt you? :)
:P
What do you get for second question?
which second question?
isnt the answer for second question 90degrees and 270degrees for both equations (1, 2)
2- 2sin^2 x = cosx Can you answer the question in full workings as well as the answer?
Not really, for equation (1), yes, (2), no
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