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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have a question regarding critical points

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the critcal points of : \[f(x,y)=(x^2-y^2)e ^{(-x^2-y^2)/(2)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for partial x i got: \[xe ^{(-x^2-y^2)/(2)}(-x^2+y^2+2)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for partial y i got: \[ye ^{(-x^2-y^2)/(2)}(-x^2+y^2-2)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I now i am suppose to set them to zero, but how do i solve for the critical points.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Zarkon , could you help me out, is the critical point (0,0)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or anybody

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you didnt use the product rule?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yes sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but, what i am looking for is the critcal points

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the question is how do we find the zeroes i understand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right, because, to find the critical points we set partial x and partial y to zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

idk :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

help @hero (sorry for botherin )

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@estudier

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@lalaly could you help

OpenStudy (phi):

From your first partial , we see that x=0 makes fx=0 similarly, y=0 for the 2nd equation, so (0,0) looks critical if we take x=0 from the first, we can make the second equation zero by solving for y^2-2 = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh @eigenschmeigen :D

OpenStudy (phi):

or vice versa, y=0 from the 2nd equation and x^2=2 makes the first 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think phi has this covered :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yes ur latee :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what do you mean take x=0 from the first, you mean plug x=0 into the partial derivative of y?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes

OpenStudy (phi):

because that point will make fx=0 and fy=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i see

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, so i plugged in x=0 into the partial derivative of y and got: \[ye ^{(-y^2)/(2)}(y^2-2)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is this what i should have gotten, and how do i procced from here

OpenStudy (phi):

You have 3 factors, if any = 0, the expression = 0. so try each in turn

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont understand

OpenStudy (phi):

It is the same idea used to solve (x-1)(x+2)=0 either (x-1)=0 or (x+2)=0 here you have 3 factors y e^stuff (y^2-2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, so i got y=0, and y=plus or minus sqrt(2), how do i deal with that expoenet?

OpenStudy (phi):

It only approaches 0 as y-> inf, so it isn't a player

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but so then what is the meanig of the y=plus or minus sqrt(2)

OpenStudy (phi):

y= sqrt(2) makes fy=0 when x=0 x=0 makes fx=0 so (0,sqrt(2)) makes fx=0 and fy=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i understand, so then the ctircal points would be (0,0) and (0,sqrt(2))

OpenStudy (phi):

and (0,-sqrt(2)) and don't forget y=0 from the 2nd eq. solve for x in the first to get even more

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh man, we still need to plug in the y=o into the f sub x. Hmm, okay, i will do that. Thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now when i plugged in y=o into partial x, i got 3 terms, and set them to zero. i got x=0, and then i also got:x=plus or mius sqrt(2), so, then i more critical points right? they would be (sqrt(2),0) and (-sqrt(2),0)

OpenStudy (phi):

Yes. It looks like 5 critical points.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it has 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(0,0) is also a solution of partial derivatives.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got another one

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