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OpenStudy (anonymous):

NEED HELP I DONT THINK IM DOING THIS RIGHT

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1.Measure and record the diameter and height of the cylindrical object you have chosen in inches. Round to the nearest whole number. 2.Apply the formula of a right circular cylinder (V = r2h) to find the volume of the object. (Note: Be sure to find the radius from the diameter measurement by dividing by 2.) Now suppose you knew the volume of this object and the relation of the height to the radius, but did not know the radius. Rewriting the equation with one variable would result in a polynomial equation that you could solve to find the radius. 3.Rewrite the formula using the variable x for the radius. Substitute the value of the volume found in step 2 for V and express the height of the object in terms of x plus or minus a constant. For example, if the height measurement is 4 inches longer than the radius, then the expression for the height will be (x + 4).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1. D= 4in. H= 6in. 2. 3.14 (2^2)6 / 3.14(4)(6)= 75.36 3. 75.36= 3.14x^2(6) 4.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and number 4 says,,, Simplify the equation and write it in standard form. Multiply each term in the equation by 100 to eliminate any decimals, if necessary.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

ugh... ugly boring word problem....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you captin obvious -_-

OpenStudy (turingtest):

Hey, believe it or not some math problems are interesting this is not one of them... well go find a cylindrical object got a soda can handy ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i posted what i did look up a few comments i did 1-3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but im not sure if im even doing it right

OpenStudy (turingtest):

for part 3 it says "express the height of the object in terms of x plus or minus a constant." you missed that part

OpenStudy (turingtest):

up 'till then it's fine

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok well how do i do that

OpenStudy (turingtest):

if the radius is 2, and the height is 6 then if we call the radius x the height is x+? what is "?"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

6?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

let's try it: radius=x=2 h=6=x+6=2+6 but we wanted h=6, so...

OpenStudy (turingtest):

if the radius is x=2 and the height is h=6 then h=x+4 (because 2+4=6, make sense ?)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes 2+4=6 make sance

OpenStudy (turingtest):

so we can write the height in terms of the radius x h=x+4 sub that in for the height in your formula

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so h=x+4 is the answer for #3? this is confusing

OpenStudy (turingtest):

no, you just have to put x+4 where the value of the height was in formula #3 what is the height ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if i wrote 75.36= 3.14x^2(6) and 6 is the h then its 75.36= 3.14x^2(x+4)?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

exactly :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so my questain befor if i have 75.36= 3.14x^2(x+4) then how do i.. 4. Simplify the equation and write it in standard form. Multiply each term in the equation by 100 to eliminate any decimals, if necessary. 5. Find the solutions to this equation algebraically using the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra, the Rational Root Theorem, Descartes' Rule of Signs, and the Factor Theorem.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

oh you got a whole grip of stuff here... for part 4 get rid of the decimals first (like they say, multitply everything by 100) what do you get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do i keep the equation and just multiply each number individually?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yes, only the coefficients are effected

OpenStudy (turingtest):

*affected

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whats a coefficient thing?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

the number next to the variable(s): in 3x -> 3 is the coefficient in 5.14y -> 5.14 is the coefficient in 24.58793xyz -> 24.58793 is the coefficient

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so 75.36= 3.14x^2(x+4) my answer is 7536=314x^2(x+4)?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yes, but now you can distribute the \(314x^2\) on the right side to the \(x+4\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 314x^2(x+4)... i dont know how to do that :(

OpenStudy (turingtest):

law of distribution\[a(b+c)=ab+ac\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 314x^3+ 1256?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

prolly, let me check my calculator for 314(4)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yeah that's right now as far as what they mean by "standard form" I think they mean all = to some constant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so thats my answer for 4?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

oh wait, you forgot to distribute the x^2 on the 4... so the whole expression is\[7536=314x^3+1256x^2\]

OpenStudy (turingtest):

so set all that equal to zero: that is standard form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so now thats the answer to 4?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I think they want it set to zero, but I'm not sure; different people use "standard form" differently believe it or not.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well im not looking to get %100 on this assingment if that part is wrong then its fine

OpenStudy (turingtest):

also you should see if you can simplify it (you can) notice all the coefficients are even, so we can at least divide by zero

OpenStudy (turingtest):

once it is in standard form and simplified you use the rational root theorem to solve the cubic, which may be a pain depending on what the simplification turns out to be.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

7536=314x^3+1256x^2 7536=1570x^5?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

no, you can't add exponents unless you are multiplying... it stays as 7536=314x^3+1256x^2 but divide both sides by 2 for a start...

OpenStudy (turingtest):

3768=157x^3+628x^2 now I'm not so sure it can be simplified any more...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

7536=157x^3+ 628x^2?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

\(both~~sides\)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

anyway, all I see offhand is to set it all =0

OpenStudy (turingtest):

so subtract off the RHS

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whats RHS ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

my mistake: subtract off the LHS RHS=right-hand side LHS=left-hand side

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3768=157x^3+628x^2 ...subtract the left of what?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

3768 is the LHS subtract it from both sides and your equation will then be (blah blah blah)=zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i still dont get it

OpenStudy (turingtest):

subtract 3768 from both sides.... 3768-3768=157x^3+628x^2-3768

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0=157x^3-3140?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3140x^2

OpenStudy (turingtest):

hopefully you mean 0=157x^3+628x^2-3768 ..where did you get 3140 ? oh I see... no those are not like terms, so you can't combine them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yha idk what i did i just know im confused

OpenStudy (anonymous):

o wait i think i get it so its that the answer to 4?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

looks like it

OpenStudy (turingtest):

as far as part 5.... you've obviously missed way too much to try to explain how you might try to solve this using the techniques they mention, so I'll have to opt out on that one.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

um ok thanks for getting me this far

OpenStudy (turingtest):

you're welcome honestly I would only solve the last problem with a computer, the difficulty being that you can choose any numbers for the dimensions of the cylinder, so the problem is likely to turn out ugly (as it has). good luck to those who would solve it from here without a computer!

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