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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do I have to put a trinomial in parentheses to factor it?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm not sure what you mean. Can you give an example?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My question is asking to complete the square of -5x^2 - 70x I start by going -5(x^2 + 14x) -5(x^2 + 14x + 49 - 49) -5((x+7)^2 - 49) -5(x+7)^2 + 245

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is that incorrect? the book says -5(x^2 + 14x) -5[(x^2 + 14x + 49) - 49] -5[(x+7)^2 - 49] -5(x+7)^2 + 245

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So my question is do I have to put the trinomial in parentheses to factor it?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

your third step -5((x+7)^2 - 49) is exactly the same as the books third step -5[(x+7)^2 - 49], it's just using brackets instead of parenthesis

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so there's no major difference between your answer and the book's answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But my second steps are different

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which second step is correct?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

-5(x^2 + 14x + 49 - 49) is equivalent to -5((x^2 + 14x + 49) - 49)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

since x^2 + 14x + 49 is the same as (x^2 + 14x + 49)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Why did they place x^2 + 14x + 49 in parenthesis? They did that to show that they're going to factor it to get (x+7)^2. But parenthesis are not necessary.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I see so x^2 + 14x + 49 = (x+7)^2 and (x^2 + 14x + 49) = (x+7)^2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

exactly, they are the same

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the parenthesis are just a visual aid to help see how the terms factor

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can you tell me why -5(x^2 + 14x + 49 - 49) is equivalent to -5((x^2 + 14x + 49) - 49)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

because placing parenthesis around x^2 + 14x + 49 does NOT change the expression

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it's merely done to group the terms and show how/why they got (x+7)^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay thanks

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yw

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 In -5((x^2 + 14x + 49) - 49) nothing happens inside the nested brackets right? so you can pretend they don't exist right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes, that's a good way to put it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

they're only there to put extra focus on x^2 + 14x + 49 (ie so you can see it better)

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