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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Solve for x: \[(\log_3 x)^3 = 9 \log x\] Specifically, I'm looking for guidance on how to solve the LHS whatnot with the exponent of three. I don't believe there are any log rules that can simplify that expression.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that right side log base 10?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so they're the same log base...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The L.H.S its log base is 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The LHS is \[\large{(log_3 x)^3}\], with base 3 as @Eyad mentioned.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got 1 and 27 which seemed to work. However, I'm uncertain how you got the above equation from the original one. Could you divulge in some steps on how you transformed them?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Actually, only 1 is the answer. 27 doesn't work.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Did you use the base change formula?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sure.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I guess what I'm not sure about is how you got \(9 \log x\) into a log with base 3.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh.. i'm sorry... i was under the assumption that the right hand side was base 3... my bad... :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok... maybe you can change that RHS so it has a log base 3 also.. to \[\large \frac {9\log_3 x}{\log_3 10}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I tried this; but it seems that multiplying both sides by log_3 10 is the only option then, and it still doesn't allow me to do some factoring or cancelling which I believe you have to do.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you the same as I did before only now the place where the 9 was, its that new expression \[\large \frac {9\log_3 x}{\log_3 10}\] you should still have x=1 as a solution. but the other factor is just another quadratic...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Could you repost that equation? Seems like you deleted it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i did because it was base 10 and not base 3.... i'll put it up with the new expression...

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

\[\begin{align} \log_3(x^3)&=9\log_{10}(x)\\ 3\log_3(x)&=9\log_{10}(x)\\ \log_3(x)&=3\log_{10}(x)\\ &=3\frac{\log_3(x)}{\log_3(10)} \end{align}\]therefore:\[\log_3(10)\log_3(x)=3\log_3(x)\]the only solution to this is to have:\[\log_3(x)=0\]therefore:\[x=3^0=1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@asnaseer - Please correct me if I am wrong but, I thought \[\large{(\log_3 x)^3 \neq \log_3 x^3}\]

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

sorry - misread question - let me try again... :)

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

\[\begin{align} (\log_3(x))^3&=9\log_{10}(x)\\ &=9\log_{10}(x)\\ &=3\log_{10}(x)\\ &=3\frac{\log_3(x)}{\log_3(10)} \end{align}\]let:\[y=\log_3(x)\]therefore:\[y^3=\frac{3y}{\log_3(10)}\]\[y^3-\frac{3y}{\log_3(10)}=0\]\[y(y^2-\frac{3}{\log_3(10)})=0\]therefore:\[y=0\]or:\[y=\pm\sqrt{\frac{3}{\log_3(10)}}\]and you can then get x from here...

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

sorry - replace the constant 3 above with 9 - copy-paste error

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

i.e.:\[\begin{align} (\log_3(x))^3&=9\log_{10}(x)\\ &=9\log_{10}(x)\\ &=9\frac{\log_3(x)}{\log_3(10)} \end{align}\]which leads to: y = 0 or:\[y=\pm\sqrt{\frac{9}{\log_3(10)}}=\pm\frac{3}{\sqrt{\log_3(10)}}\]

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

its quite late at night here which is why I am making silly mistakes :)

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

you can get x back from:\[y=\log_3(x)\]

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

so:\[x=3^y\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you! I'm away from my desk at the moment, but the steps seem to make sense to me.

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

yw

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