Is this true? ∅ is a subset of {∅, {∅}}
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i think \(\phi\) is a subset of any set and here, \(\{\phi\}\) is also a subset
can people explain to me what {∅, {∅}} means?
in the first case it is used as empty set, in the second case it is used as an element
@kropot72 correct me if im wrong
is it: empty set is a subset of ... (dont know this part) Why do they use {{∅}}?
\(\phi\) represent an empty set. \(\{\phi\}\) here, \(\phi\) is an element with in a set \(\{\{\phi\}\}\) here, \(\phi\) is an element with in a subset of set
but they all mean empty sets... :(?
It is accepted in mathematics that each set is a subset of itself. It is also accepted that the empty set is a subset of every set.
\(\{\phi\}\) is this an empty set ? i dont think so... i may be wrong...
so this question is True?
its true.
but im confused with my question above lol
so can you use english to translate all the symbols please?
The empty set is denoted by the symbol\[\phi\]
so is it "empty set is a subset of two elements an empty set and an element of an empty set"...?
yep ! thats correct translation of ur question. By definition, "empty set is a subset of any set"
so no matter how they write it, it will always be true? Like {∅} is a subset of {∅, {∅}} and {{∅}} is a subset of {∅, {∅}}
no wait a sec.. they all are different things i think. pls wait.
@kropot72 u have handy knowledge on this...
The empty set is a member of every set, including itself. This is fundamentally true.
second line she has put also true ?
for the second line, is that because in one of the element in the list is {{∅}} ? so {{∅}} is in the list?
yep.. second line is also true. that element is in list. u are using it correct :)
so should I treat ∅ as an variable like X or something? Do they have the same properties?
\(\{\{\{\phi\}\}\}\) is not a subset
nope \(\phi\) is a set
Like {∅} is a subset of {∅, {∅}} and {{∅}} is a subset of {∅, {∅}} I agree that the first line is true but cannot get my head around the second line. The question is an extreme example of set theory anyway. I would not push it further myself:)
me too lol :)
lol I have {{∅}} do not equal {∅} on my notes maybe I will ask my professor tomorrow morning..
yep they are not equal
\(\phi\) is a set \(\{\phi\}\) is also a set, but its not empty. it has ONE element
\(\{\{\phi\}\}\) is also set, that contans ONE subset, which contains ONE element.
i may be completely wrong... pls other guys pitch in n correct me :\
@pog8207215 thats what i think... i think its correct. does it make sense to u ?
thank you for the explanation ! It makes so much more sense to me that way!
I have a question that has real numbers...
glad to hear that.. :))
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