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OpenStudy (swissgirl):

The relation set R= {(1,5)(5,1),(1,1) on the set A={1,2,3,4,5} Is this relation reflexive?

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

ok my problem with this one is that does the relation set need to be reflexive for every element in A?

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

like it is only reflexive for 1 i mean its def not reflexive

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

right

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

but what abt symmetry itss not symmetric for every point in A but the relation set is symmetric like (1,50 ---> (5,1) and (1,1) ---> (1,1)

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

as i said before. a relation is reflexive if every element of the set is related with itself

OpenStudy (experimentx):

it's symmetric + transitive

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

ohhh so we r only looking at the relation set not set A

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

It kinda makes no diff what is in A we only care abt the relation set

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

it is not transitive (assuming u wrote R completely)

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

ya that was completely

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

so it is not transitive because you have (5,1) and (1,5) but no (5,5)

OpenStudy (experimentx):

aw ... i didn't note that

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

ohhhhh i seee okkkkkkk

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

yayyyyyyyyy

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

Thanks guyysssssssss

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

u r w

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

So basically when u wanna determine if the relation is symmetric transitive or relexive u ignore the set A and u just look at the relation set to determine this

OpenStudy (experimentx):

yep

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

when it comes to symetry and transitivity yes but u cannot ingnore A for reflexivity

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

ohhhhhhh okkkk now i am gettting it :DDDDDDDDD

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