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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Separable ODE question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am currently stuck on part(ii) of this question. I've tried using both equations are tired separating them to solve for x, however it's not working out, particularly the integration. I know I am slipping up somewhere

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No I was trying to get the x's on side of the equation and the t's on the other.

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

u were trying to separate it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

i don't think that's possible

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am trying to find the solution in terms of x, that's what the question is asking me.

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

helder_edwin - I believe all that is required here is to integrate what is given in part (i)

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

as it is part (ii) that ironictoaster is stuck on

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

ok i get it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I tried using the rewritten equation by dividing t^2-1 and multiplying across by dt.

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

just integrate both sides with respect to t

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

use the fact that:\[\int\frac{d}{dt}f(t)dt=f(t)\]

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

i.e.:\[\int\frac{d}{dt}[(t^2-1)x]dt=(t^2-1)x\]

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

so you just need to integrate the right hand side here

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

i.e.:\[\int(t-1)\cos(t)dt\]

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

do you know how to do that?

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

so \[ \large \int d[(t^2-1)x]=\int(t-1)\cos t\,dt \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ohhh, I did not know I integrate the LHS like that cause there's a t^2-1 there. I divided across before integrating.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@asnaseer Looks like integration by parts.

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

remember the LHS is a derivative with respect to t.

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

yes - integration by parts for RHS

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

sorry what is LHS?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Left hand side

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

when using integrating factors you get a left hand side (LHS) which is just a derivative with respect to the main variable (t in this case)

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

that's the advantage of using integrating factors

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

ohhh sorry english is not my mother language

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

you end up with a very simple integral on the LHS

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

don't forget to include the constant in the integration of the RHS. then just use the initial values to solve for that constant.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah that's how I did part i. The LHS is always your integrating factor multiplied for a variable and doing the product rule will give the LHS of the previous step.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

by a variable*

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

yes - ok - I believe you know how to solve this now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yep sure do, thanks for the help guys!

OpenStudy (asnaseer):

yw :)

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