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OpenStudy (anonymous):
perform the indicated function evaluations for:
f(x)=10x-3
f(12-x)....?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Replace 'x' with '12-x' to get
f(x)=10x-3
f(12-x)=10(12-x)-3
Now simplify and tell me what you get.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
120x-3 .........?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
10(12-x) - 3
10*12-10*x - 3
120 - 10x - 3
117x - 10x
-10x + 117
So f(12-x)= -10x+117
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
So somehow you mixed up the terms
OpenStudy (anonymous):
soo I probably messed up on f(t^2+2) ....
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
perhaps, but idk since I can't see what you got
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I got 10t^2+20-3 for that one
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
f(x)=10x-3
f(t^2+t)=10(t^2+t)-3
f(t^2+t)=10t^2+10t-3
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
and you can't go further because there are no like terms to combine
OpenStudy (anonymous):
my problem with these types of equations is that I always end up multiplying whats outside of the parenthesis with whats inside
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
thats how I got 20 instead of 10
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
well you're sorta on the right track because you do multiply that 10 sitting out front the parenthesis with everything inside
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so why wouldn't I multiply it with the 2 thats sitting inside the parenthesis?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
because you only multiply the coefficients, not the exponents
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
since 10 times t^2 = 10t^2 and NOT 20t^2, 20t or 20
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so just ignore the 2 right
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
pretty much
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok thankyou so much!
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
np
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok so would f(x-h) be 10x+10h-3...?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
f(x)=10x-3
f(x-h)=10(x-h)-3
Got this so far?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ohh wait I made a mistake its supposed to be a plus sign not a minus
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Now distribute
f(x)=10x-3
f(x-h)=10(x-h)-3
f(x-h)=10x-10h-3
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah thats what I got except its a plus sign between 10x and 10h
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
i see, so you lost a negative sign somewhere
OpenStudy (anonymous):
do you mind helping me with another one real fast..?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
sure thing
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok its sorta the same kind of problem,
h(y)=4y^2-7y+1
h(6z)...?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Start with
h(y)=4y^2-7y+1
and replace EVERY 'y' with '6z' to get
h(6z)=4(6z)^2-7(6z)+1
Then simplify
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
12z^2-42z+1
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
(6z)^2 = 36z^2
then 4*36z^2 = 144z^2
So it should be 144z^2-42z+1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I thought after I did that I would then square 12 which would be 144
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
how are you getting 12?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
or 12^2 ?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
sure 12^2 = 144 and 4*36 = 144, but I'm not seeing how you got 12
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeap you're right I was multiplying wrong
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
i gotcha, i'm glad you caught your mistake
OpenStudy (anonymous):
haha yeah. ok I'm gonna work one out on my own and you tell me if I get it right?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
alright sounds great
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
cool! ok this one looks hard ...but I'll give it a try...
its for the same problem ....
h(1-3y)
4(1-3y)^2-7(1-3y)+1= 4-12y^2-7-21+1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and Idk if I should keep simplifying...?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
it might help to just focus on (1-3y)^2
(1-3y)^2
(1-3y)(1-3y)
1(1-3y)-3y(1-3y)
So simplify 1(1-3y)-3y(1-3y) and tell me what you get
OpenStudy (anonymous):
3y-3y-9y^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ik thats not right...BUtik you have to multiply it with whats int the parenthesis..
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
1(1-3y)-3y(1-3y)
1-3y-3y-9y^2
1 - 6y - 9y^2
Somehow you lost a 1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
YEAH I did. I make the littlest mistakes -__- Ok where did the 6 some from?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
-3y - 3y = -6y
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
since -3-3 = -6
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok I get it now
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
alright great
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
so
4(1-3y)^2-7(1-3y)+1
becomes
4(1 - 6y - 9y^2)-7(1-3y)+1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thankyou!
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
you're welcome, tell me what you get when you simplify that
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
sorry for the wait. ok so I got 4-24y-81y^2-7-21-1...?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
you mean -36y^2 ?
and
-21y?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
oh and that -1 at the end should be +1
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
oh and sry, -7 times -3y is +21y
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
let me write it all out
4(1 - 6y - 9y^2)-7(1-3y)+1
4 - 24y - 36y^2 - 7 + 21y + 1
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
now combine like terms
OpenStudy (anonymous):
4-36y^2-7+45y+1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
??
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
-24+21 = -3
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
so -24y + 21y = -3y
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
4-7+1 = -3+1 = -2
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
4 - 24y - 36y^2 - 7 + 21y + 1
-36y^2 - 3y - 2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Does it matter which one I subtracted or added first?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
with subtraction order matters, so yes
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
-24+21
is the same as
21 - 24
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok...I just got lost.....
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
where
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
point which step
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
point out*
OpenStudy (anonymous):
at this point...4-7+1 = -3+1 = -2
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
4 - 7 is -3
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
so
4-7+1
is the same as
-3+1
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
then -3+1 becomes -2
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
So in the end, 4-7+1 = -2
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
one sec
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Here's the full and complete problem
4(1-3y)^2-7(1-3y)+1
4[ (1-3y)(1-3y) ]-7(1-3y)+1
4(1 - 6y + 9y^2)-7(1-3y)+1
4 - 24y + 36y^2 - 7 + 21y + 1
36y^2 - 3y - 2
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
So
4(1-3y)^2-7(1-3y)+1
simplifies to
36y^2 - 3y - 2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how did you get 36y^2-3y-2 as your final answer..... I see how you got 36....but where did 3 and 2 come from...
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Hopefully this is a bit clearer
4(1-3y)^2-7(1-3y)+1
4[ (1-3y)(1-3y) ]-7(1-3y)+1
4(1 - 6y + 9y^2)-7(1-3y)+1
4 - 24y + 36y^2 - 7 + 21y + 1
36y^2 (- 24y+21y) + (4- 7+ 1 )
36y^2 - 3y - 2
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
If not, let me know
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
got it! makes sense
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
alright great
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thankyou so much ! you're a great teacher.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
why thank you, I'm glad I could help you out
OpenStudy (anonymous):
is it ok if you help me with a couple more problems. Im trying to get the hang of this.
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
sure go for it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
this one is h(y+k)
I got
4(y+k)^2-7(y-K)+1
=4(y+k)^2-7(y+7yk+k)+1
=4y^2+4k^2-7y+49yk+7k+1
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
h(y+k) ?? not f(y+k) ??
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
wait, we're talking about the same function
4x^2 - 7x + 1
right??
OpenStudy (anonymous):
nooo its h
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
oh ok, but it's still 4x^2 - 7x + 1 right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yesss
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
ok thanks