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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
If
z(z-1)=0
then
z = 0 or z-1=0
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Keep going to completely solve for z
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i don't understand how to do the problem? could you explain please? sorry. haven't been in algebra for quite sometime, but the help is much appreciated!
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
If two numbers multiply to 0, then one of them must be 0
OpenStudy (anonymous):
The quadratic EQUATION is
\[solution =\frac{b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4 a c}}{2 a}\]
which holds true for any
\[a z^2 + b z + c = 0\]
Where a, b, and c are real numbers and z is complex (and, therefore, can be real).
You have to get z(z-1) = 0 in the form I showed above to employ the quadratic equation. Then again, if you are given z(z-1) as is, in factored form, then it is easier the other way...
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
So if
z(z-1)=0
then
either z is zero or z-1 is zero, which means
z=0 or z-1=0
which becomes
z=0 or z=1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh my goodness, that makes perfect sense now! thank you so much @jim_thompson5910!
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
you're very welcome
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
I'm glad it's making sense now
OpenStudy (anonymous):
would you mind helping with another problem and explaining as well? if that wouldn't be too much of a bother?
y^2+y-30=0
i've gotten to this far in the equation:
y^2=0 or y-30=0
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
not quite
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
you can only say that if y^2 times y-30 was equal to 0
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
so you have to factor the left side first
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Do you know how to factor this?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i'm factoring it right now
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
well you don't have to factor, if you read what I wrote
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@jim_thompson5910 okay, i worked it like this:
y^2+y-30=0
(y+5)(y-6)=0
y+5=0 or y-6=0
y=-5 or y=6
is that correct?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
close, but not quite
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
-6 + 5 = -1, but we want the two numbers to add to positive 1
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
but you have the right idea (minus that mistake)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so it'd be:
y^2+y-30=0
(y+6)(y-5)=0
y+6=0 or y-5=0
y=-6 or y=5
correct?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
much better
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thank you! could you help with this problem as well? lol
3c^2=5c
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
get everything to one side
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
what do you get when you do that
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i simplified it wrong, i got a fraction..
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
that's normal (and in this case correct)
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
depends on which fraction of course
OpenStudy (anonymous):
5/3 or 1and 2/3
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
that's one solution
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
what's the other
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@jim_thompson5910 still helpin me?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
oh sry, i got distracted
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
no, 2 isn't the other solution
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
well darn, idk then
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
3c^2=5c
3c^2-5c = 0
c(3c - 5) = 0
c = 0 or 3c-5=0
c = 0 or c = 5/3
So the two solutions are c = 0 or c = 5/3
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
of course, you can write 5/3 as 1 2/3 (a mixed number)
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
not sure if you did it this way, but this is the way I recommend doing it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah i definitely did it some crazy way, but that way makes more sense
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
alright I'm glad it makes sense
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay what about this problem...
10x^2+9x+2=0
(-5x+2)(-2x+1)=0
-5x+2=0 or -2x+1=0
idk what to do after that^^
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
unfortunately 10x^2+9x+2 doesn't factor to (-5x+2)(-2x+1)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh okay.
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
try it again and tell me what you get
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
umm i guessed but i got (-5x+3)(3x+1)
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
still no
10*2 = 20 (first and last multiply to 20)
Notice how 5+4 = 20 and 5*4 = 20
So break up 9x into 5x+4x and factor by grouping
10x^2+9x+2
10x^2+5x+4x+2
(10x^2+5x)+(4x+2)
5x(2x+1)+(4x+2)
5x(2x+1)+2(2x+1)
(5x+2)(2x+1)
So 10x^2+9x+2 factors to (5x+2)(2x+1)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so then it would be 5x+2 =0 or 2x+1=0 right?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yes, keep going
OpenStudy (anonymous):
5-2=0 or 2-1=0?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
not sure what you're doing there...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
wait x=5-2 or x=2-, i messed up
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
closer, but a bit off
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
5x+2 =0
5x+2-2 =0-2
5x =-2
5x/5 = -2/5
x = - 2/5
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
2x+1=0
2x+1-1=0-1
2x = -1
2x/2 = -1/2
x = -1/2
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