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OpenStudy (swissgirl):

Show that the following is a group: \( (P(X),\bigtriangleup )\) Where X is a non empty set and \( \bigtriangleup \) is the symmetric difference operation \( A \bigtriangleup B= (A-B) \cup (B-A) \)

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

P(X) is the power set

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya sooo....

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

idk lol I dont even know the elements

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do u like swiss cheez

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

@Herp_Derp can u help me?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok. The elements of P are exactly the subsets of X, including the empty set (this is the definition of a powerset). We need to prove: closure, associativity, existence of an identity, and existence of an inverse. First we prove closure. The symmetric difference of two sets is equivalent to the union minus the intersection. The union of two subsets A and B of X contains elements z, with each z being an element of at least A or B. Since each z is an element of a subset of X, each z is (by the definition of a subset) in X. Thus the union of A and B is a subset of X (by the definition of a subset, again). The symmetric difference is in a similar way a subset of X. Therefore it is in the powerset of X (the set of all subsets of X). Therefore P is closed under the symmetric difference operation.

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

so hwo wld we write that as a table. I think i gotta show it as a table

OpenStudy (anonymous):

X is any nonempty set, so you cannot draw a general table. You can, however, consider an example set and draw a table for it, but it would be a large, complicated table and it would not be sufficient to prove the general case as posed in the problem.

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

thats what i figured Thanks @Herp_Derp I really appreciate your help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let \(R=A\Delta B\). \((A\Delta B)\Delta C\equiv R\Delta C\) means that for any \(x\in (R\Delta C)\), x is either in R, or x is in C, but not both. If x is in R, then x is either in A or B, but not both. So either x is in A, or x is in B, or x is in C, but if x is in C, then x is not in either A or B, but is possibly in both A and B. If x is in C and x is in A and x is in B, x is in the intersection of A,B,C. So either x is in exactly one of A,B,C; or x is in all three. In a similar way we can conclude that all x in \(A\Delta (B \Delta C)\) satisfy these same properties. Therefore \(A\Delta (B\Delta C)=(A\Delta B)\Delta C\). Therefore the operation is associative.

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

Wow Thanks @Herp_Derp I really appreciate this :)))))))))))))))))))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have proved the most difficult parts for you. Can you do the other two?

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

well the identity is the emptyset

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Good!

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

hahahah i dont even know how but i just know that from reading it somewhere

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ha! Well, think about it. What is the union of any set and the empty set, minus the intersection of any set and the empty set?

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ok got that

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

hmmm just thinking abt the inverse

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

its where the ordered pairs r reversed

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

like (x,y) becomes (y,x)

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

whooppps in this case its where it equals the empty set?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is going to be nice and ugly did you show it was associative?

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

ya just stuck with the inverse

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yeah look @Herp_Derp did it above, nice work!!

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

Ya that waas reallllyy nice of himmmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

closer is no big deal identity is empty set so what is the inverse of \(A\)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how would you get the symmetric difference to be the empty set? is another way of asking the question

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

the emptyset obviously

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

well 2 disjoint sets will give you the inverse

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no i don't think so but i could be wrong

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

*will give u the emptyset

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

wait let me reread this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

unless i miss my guess, doesn't symmetric difference mean union minus the intersection? in plain english i mean

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

when A=B?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i think that is right every element is its own inverse

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

oh thats coolllll Thankssssss guysssssss

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Herp_Derp did all the hard work

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

it looks scarier than it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

don't be scared by these, there are so few things to check and you have to work from the definition, so it is usually either obvious or false i bet with some time you would have been able to do this on your own

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

hahahah Hope so. Thanks @Herp_Derp and @satellite73 That was awesomeeeee THANKS :)))))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Crap, I'm retarded. The symmetric difference of two disjoint sets is the union of the two sets, which is not the empty set. The symmetric difference of a set and itself, on the other hand, is always the empty set. So every element of P is its own inverse. You should probably delete your posts saying that the inverse is a disjoint set, so we don't get laughed at when the Math Gods see this.

OpenStudy (swissgirl):

LOL Its fine @Herp_Derp I really appreicate ur help. It was awesome

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I needed a little brush up on my set theory anyways :)

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