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OpenStudy (aripotta):

can someone please explain truth tables?

OpenStudy (aripotta):

i need someone to thoroughly explain how to set up the truth table and what goes on in the table, because i'm clueless.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am just learning them myself I don't like them myself

OpenStudy (aripotta):

flvs doesn't explain it well. i'm hoping someone will show up here to help me :c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I also teach myself I am going though james madison high school

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what part of florida do you live in?

OpenStudy (aripotta):

orlando. these truth tables are killing me.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh I was just asking I live in clearwater

OpenStudy (aripotta):

somebody pleaseeeeeeeee. i beg you.

OpenStudy (aripotta):

@satellite73

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we can do it, but it takes step by step

OpenStudy (aripotta):

ok, i need to know how to do it

OpenStudy (aripotta):

how do you set it up and how do you know whether to put true or false in the boxes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me type the first line out, hold on

OpenStudy (aripotta):

when you don't see my picture up at the top, it doesn't mean i'm not here. open study is stupid with my computer. i'm still here paying attention. i also have to refresh every time i post something or else it continues to say i'm still typing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ \begin{array}{|c|c|c} p & q & p\lor{}q \\ \hline T & T & T\\ T & F & T \\ F & T & T\\ F & F & F \\ \hline \end{array} \]

OpenStudy (aripotta):

so how did you know where to put the Ts and Fs?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there is the first part, all combinations of true and false for P and Q

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well it doesn't really matter, just so you have all the four possible combinations that part is just sort of traditional

OpenStudy (aripotta):

i don't get it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you need both true, both false, p true and q false, and p false and q true all possiblities

OpenStudy (aripotta):

i still don't understand :c i'm so stupid

OpenStudy (anonymous):

each statement could either be true or false, just like if you flip two coins, you could get h h h t t h t t four possibilities

OpenStudy (aripotta):

so the order of the Ts and Fs don't matter? or what? :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no but you have to make sure you have all four possible combinations so it is just easier to make the first column t t f f and the second column t f t f that way you are sure to get all four

OpenStudy (aripotta):

...what. could column p v q be all Fs? or all Ts?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok lets go slow

OpenStudy (aripotta):

yes please.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think you are worrying about the truth value of P and Q forget that we don't consider whether they are true or false, they could be either we only need to write down all possibilities

OpenStudy (anonymous):

imagine instead you flip a quarter and a dime there are four possibilities for them to come up it could be (H, H), (H, T), (T, H), (T, T)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when you make the truth table you just have to make sure you have all four possible combinations, so the first then to write is this \[\begin{array}{|c|c} p & q \\ \hline T & T \\ T & F \\ F & T \\ F & F \\ \hline \end{array}\]

OpenStudy (aripotta):

ok, but how did you know it was t, t, t, f?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first row means both are true second row means p is true and q is false third row mean p is false and q is true fourth row means p is false and q is false

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok now we are ready to continue right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean we got the first two columns, and know what it means

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now we are ready for the third column \(p\lor q\)

OpenStudy (aripotta):

ok, so there's 4 rows because there's 4 possibilities? are there ever more than 4 possibilities?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not with two statement, are there? if you had three statements p, q, r you would need \(2^3=8\) rows

OpenStudy (aripotta):

o_O ok..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

imagine if you had more ok we know there are four possibilities, and also we have the start, now we continue

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\begin{array}{|c|c|c} p & q & p\lor{}q \\ \hline T & T & \\ T & F & \\ F & T & \\ F & F & \\ \hline \end{array}\] we have to fill in the last column what does \(p\lor q\) mean? it means p "or" q, meaning one, or the other, or both. so if one or the other or both are true, you put a T if they are both false, you put and F

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me know if that is clear or not

OpenStudy (aripotta):

so yo would have a T and a F in that column...how do you know if the other 2 are true or false?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

again you are worrying about whether the statement is true or false. we will worry about that later, we just need all possible combinations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

look at the first row. both statements are T right?

OpenStudy (aripotta):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so you put a T in that row, under \(p\lor q\)

OpenStudy (aripotta):

ok, the whole top row will be Ts?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now look at the next row. p is T, q is F, but one of them is T, so you put a T in that row as well

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in the third row p is F, q is T, so again we put a T under \(p\lor q\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

only in the last row, both p and q are F, so in that row we put an F

OpenStudy (aripotta):

wait, wait. i'm still not understanding how you know when to put a T or F. you said that if one is T and one F, then you HAVE to put a T?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we should be looking at \[\begin{array}{|c|c|c} p & q & p\lor{}q \\ \hline T & T & T\\ T & F & T \\ F & T & T\\ F & F & F \\ \hline \end{array}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok let me slow down

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what does \(p\lor q\) mean in english?

OpenStudy (aripotta):

p or q

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

with the understand that "or" in math means one, or the other, or both

OpenStudy (aripotta):

ok

OpenStudy (aripotta):

alright guys, i've been watching videos while open study was down, so i think i might actually get it now. thanks for trying to help :)

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